And this is why I said you are more tolerant to mediocrity.
And that is why i told you, you are judging too fast.
You don’t fully understand how another system works so it’s hard for you to compare. You said yourself you don’t play Solasta or plan to play it in the future.
That is where you are wrong. Since i do understand how that UI works, and fully i would dare to say ...
Since to know how UI works, you only need to watch it enough ... that UI will react just the same if i see someone click on icon as if i personaly will hold the mouse that will click on the same icon.
Therefore i dont need to play Solasta.
I have my reasons why i dont want to play that game and they are not part of this conversation.
Your information is strictly based on BG3 and previous games.
This is actualy pretty funy, bcs everyone on this forum (actualy everyone in the world, who played BG3 and at least one another game) have information "strictly based on BG3 and previous games" including youreself .
I presume to know what you wanted to say ...
You concider your list of games to be better, since they are fitting your idea of "better UI" whatever that means.
And my list of games, no matter what list it is (since you dont know it) is worse, since it dont include those games that you decided to be the only relevant.
Do you see the irony?
I and others are trying to tell you there’s a better system.
Another things where you are wrong ...
All you are telling me is that you like those systems more ... i like this system more.
And as i told you multiple times, this is just matter of taste, or personal prefferences if you like ... none system is "just better" that is litteraly impossible.
One fits to someone, another fits to another one ... simple as that.
The sad part about this is me trying to find a way to satisfy your demands, yet keep my system as intact as possible ... as i said multiple times allready: Fiding solution to satisfy everyone (or as much as possible) ... in shorten called
compromise.
Yet you are only trying to persuate me to submit and accept your system as the only right one. :-/
Just because you are okay with 300+ hours of mediocrity doesn’t mean we should stick with it.
As i said abowe, and multiple times before ...
I dont really care what system would you use, as long as mine will keep intact ... so, another thing where you are wrong.
Sadly, there is little chances that Larian will develop two entirely different UI simultaneously ... so, the best way for me to hope that my preferences will be met is try to find (again) multiple times mentioned compromise.
So far closest sugestion to that compromise seem to be button pleaceable anywhere in hotbar named "spells" that allows people to simply open all spells in popup menu ... another button for "scrolls", "consumables", "arrows" etc.
Sadly, most people here seem to me too focused on "OMG SOLASTA IS BEST GIVE ME SOLASTA" to even try to think about it.
What do you mean you didn’t do it.
I believed that sentence is self-explanatory.
But if you insist ...
You accused me from stating my gameplay just to show, if i may quote "as if playing a ton of hours makes me an expert" ... even despite the fact that I explicitly told (twice ... thrice now), that I had given this information only so that in my question: "how is it possible that I never came across the need to constantly reorganize the hotbar" it was not assumed that I did not play the game long enough, to need to reorganize the hotbar at all.
I believe there is no more reason to stick with this sentence anymore, so i skip rest of your comentary in this matter.
A little too condemning for my taste ...
I dont quite understand why so many people around this forum have feeling that their opinion and taste for stuff is the only proper and right one, and everyone else are just wrong.
I like this, you like that ... its not matter of some "quality", just taste.
In my opinion, best way for Larian to work is at least try to satisfy us both.
Dude. You are doing the same thing. People are suggesting another method that might be better (I will admit I think it is objectively better) but you are saying they are wrong.
Even in that quoted post i pointed out our differences ...
I reapeated them in this post two quotes above, but i can say it once more in case that anyone will skip that previous part:
Solasta UI demanders (read as: you) are demanding complete change of UI, wich would destroy my style of gameplay.
Hotbar supporter (read as: me) try to find the way to satisfy Solasta UI demanders (read as: you) while kepp my style of gameplay still possible.
Aka. to quote from your quoted post: "Satisfy us both".
That is difference, therefore im not doing the same thing.
Also, as far as i know, i never said that they "are wrong", unless they claim that their way is ultimately better and everyone should obey. Im usualy only poiting out the fact that there are people who simply like the game as it is and find hotbar to be usefull.
You didn’t have to mess with the hotbar so anyone else who does is clearly wrong? Right? I mean you did spend 300+ hours and didn’t need to change it so everyone else is playing the game wrong?
Well ... yes, but actualy no.
I believe that when anyone is using some mechanic in the way that he have troubles to use it, and he need to re-set everything often and start over and in the end he is still not satisfied with outcome, so sooner or later he need to once more re-set and start over ... he is clearly not using it well.
(Unless he WANT to re-set it often, not sure why anyone would, but not my place to judge.)
Then, when i never had such problem, i dare to say that i use that mechanic efectively enough ... therefore its not fault of mechanic.
To put it simply ... if you try to hammer a nail with screwdriver, its not fault of screwdriver.
You know it kinda reminds me UI discusions on WoW ...
Many people uses tons of addons to change the UI as they see fit ... personaly i simply use default settings (and i mean really default, old style you could say ... not that monstrosity they created in BFA).
Some people cant understand how im i even able to kill anything without having this or that ...
Same as i cant understand how can they even see anything in that game, when there is litteraly TONS of additional bars, coutdowns, cooldown counters, damage/threat/resource/dunno-what-metters and stuff ...
And i have no problem with them.
They like it, they use it, they are effective with it ...
But for me? Such UI would be hammering a nail with screwdriver.
And as long as i can keep my oldscool UI, we are all quite happy. :P
The good news for you is Larian agrees with you. Not because Larian thinks hotbars are better. They are just not focused on making the game mechanics efficient. They have other priorities.
That is what i believed with that horrible sugestion to include all spell levels into one pop-up menu ...
And how did that end? :-/
You know what is most funny about it? I actualy did find solution back there.
All i wanted was them simply leave the curent system alone, and simply add either modifier for popup, or another set of spells that would contain all spell levels under one icon.
Everyone could be happy ... now some certainly are, others at least not so much.
