Originally Posted by vometia
Originally Posted by Seraphael
Interesting derailing of the conversation by yet another bombastic hot take by mr_planescapist. For all the several people who felt the need to express disagreement with the overgeneralization, the defense of the game was lukewarm. Liking certain parts, enjoying most parts, liking it just fine, only one person went as far as to say he/she enjoyed the game without reservations, this is pretty far from views the most hardcore fans *should* have for a title that is expected to live up to a legendary title. So in essence, as much as we might disagree with ludicrous generalizations even made in jest, mr_planescapist seems to be onto something.

Perhaps the responses were simply rather measured; in contrast to the remark that prompted them, which consisted of little more than a string of rather unhelpful assertions: as you said yourself, "bombastic", and the sort of contribution I would sooner discourage.

The trouble with writing them off as "lukewarm" is that it creates a bit of a no-win situation where less restrained positivity has frequently led to accusations of fanboyism and the like. Perhaps it is better to not presume an intent that wasn't stated; if people wished to criticise, they would've done. Would it have made any difference if for example I'd commended BG3 for its relative polish and stability having come back from a stint of playing CP77 (which I enjoyed, fwiw, but there were innumerable problems of the sort that I haven't encountered in BG) or would it simply be written off as "well you would say that, wouldn't you?"

Seems to me, you create a situation where one can't make a reasonable observation. I don't think the posters are afraid of being mobbed for stating their honest opinion of the game on the game's own forum. Strong opinions either way are generally welcome as long as they are well-reasoned, and the posters certainly had no qualms about piling on the most vocally harsh critic of the game. For not being well-reasoned, not for love of the game. I could have joined my voice to the choir much in the same *lukewarm* way, if it wasn't for the feeling this would be overly redundant.

My point remains, we are possibly half-way into the Early Access (assuming it will be a year as the previous EAs) with Larian showing little in ways of communicating or addressing strong persistent criticisms. Considering this is a forum for the most ardent fans of Larian, this very measured defense of a game that everyone expects to live up to the classic, is nothing short of remarkable. It should be a point of concern, not a point of obfuscation.

Last edited by Seraphael; 03/04/21 01:16 PM.