Originally Posted by Zenith
This is cult-speak. "If only you were as precious as I am, you'd see clearly as I do". You can toot your own horn on your own time, I won't waste time with this crap.

There is no higher payoff to landing Witchbolt than a Magic Missile Rank 2 with the magic necklace, let alone a Ray of Flame+Hex. You waste a spell slot on a Hold that may or may not land, for what you claim is a guaranteed crit. Congrats, you crit on your next ability while doing no damage on the turn you cast Hold, I'll choose to land two back to back rank 2 magic missiles or Inflict Wounds for far more total damage, not like any current enemy currently survives beyond 1-2 turns at most, and those that would your Hold spell has an abysmal chance of landing on anyways. Yes, Bless is far more useful than Bane in its current incarnation; one is guaranteed on your party and persists regardless of how many enemies you kill, the other only applies at the time of casting to the enemy, is not a guaranteed benefit, yet uses up the same resource. Both require concentration.

I don't care what the DM says about the goblin lopping my head off because THE DM DOES NOT EVEN EXIST. Yet here you go on about drumming up this fantasy setting of yours where somehow the player has to arbitrate the outcome with a die or we reach an impasse. Every single PvE game has an encounter with an optimal approach to beating it. This is the nature of any game in which you don't face another human being. Your resort to this is trying to add luck to the mix, but this achieves nothing, the formulation of strategy remains the same, find the way to deplete the enemy's HP before they deplete yours, the less convoluted and more reliable the approach, the better. In the end, it is still a scripted encounter, and nothing short of making the game a PvP game instead will change how it plays out.

Your retort is just the equivalent of "this class is not actually better as you say, because your limitation is trying to playing the game with the idea of speed runs, and if instead you didn't care about it like I don't, then you'd see this class is not better than the other; optimization is for narrow minded losers!."


There you go again, anything that you disagree with, it's "cult-speak", or "crap". I was right when I pegged you as immature, and you prove me right with every reply. So I'm going to treat you as the 12 year-old that you keep demonstrating yourself to be and ignore you. As in, put you in my ignore list, as you've shown yourself incapable of having a discussion.

Feel free to reply with more of your narrow minded limitations on how you play while proclaiming that your way is the optimal way, and sprinkling in your usual inane "LOL!", "what were you on?", "you are a purist", "a cultist!", "this is crap!" that might work better if this were a middle school play ground. But unfortunately for you, this isn't. So, I'm going to talk to the adults and not waste any more time with you.