I like your responces Dez ...
As in my country we say, you are one of those who is talking, instead of speaking ...
If you know what i mean (dia-, more than mono- -logue)

Originally Posted by Dez
Mmmmh... I am afraid I really do not see your reasoning here. There is a *HUGE* difference in being marked as having advantage (aka. getting another dice) and simply being tagged for a +1 or +2 bonus.
This i understand completely ...

But also its first time i have seen such suggestion to be honest, maybe i was inattentive ... but usualy it seemed more like people were arguing about the fact that they dont like the rule, since it is not in DnD corebook ...
In this example, on the contrary, Maximuuus showed that he actualy dont care about the rule itself ... all he dont like it its impact.

And then there is responce from Alodar ... wich is kinda suggesting that giving players advantage, is actualy closer to DnD corebook, than adding +1 or +2 bonuses. :-/

So, if you get the idea that im confused in this particular case ...
You are totally right. laugh

Originally Posted by Dez
I don't know about you, but I use backstab all the time on appropriate units (like rogues). And, to me, the fact that NPCs do NOT use it is part of the problem. One of the first thing I was taught when I was watching DM guides on YouTube was that DnD enemies are not supposed to be dumb cannon fodder - they are aware of their spells, advantages and other game mechanics and are supposed to fight around these, not just auto-hit the "tank" standing in their face just for the sake of it...
Well, i use it often ... but usualy i simply try to walk around my target ... and usualy i fail, and get AOO strike. laugh But that is all on me. smile

NPC not using might be part of the problem, when you look at it this way ...
Or it might be simply "not implemented yet" ... sadly, there is no way to tell with certainity. :-/

Also, just for the record ...
I remembered that for this particular problem, i expressed my full support to suggestion, that probably falled into abyss by now ... where someone suggested that backstabing should be able only in that case, when targeted NPC is "threatened" by another Character ... meaning if he must "keep facing someone" ... if that makes sence.

About intelligence of NPC ... i expressed my full support for another suggestion that was adressing goblins behaviour ... with that supplement, that i believe it should not work universally. :-/
I mean, goblins should be able to understand the fact that sting the dagger in your back is more effective than your shield ... yet animals should (as far as i understand it) not be able to understand that this shiny man will be tougher to bite than that man, who is only in cloth ... at least not until they bite for the first time.

Originally Posted by Dez
What is the point in classes like rogues being able to use their bonus action to evade AOO if EVERYONE can do it by simply jumping? It feels weird.
True ...
But as far as i know, rogues are not able to use their bonus action to evade AOO right now ...

So i dare to presume that either Larian is preparing something else for them ... or, they will be the victims here. :-/

Originally Posted by Dez
awh sht he jumped, guess imma just stay here, no point swinging at him
Would it really seem so different with evasion as its own action? laugh
I mean, that action would need some visualization ...

Or it would be more like:
"awh sht he just dodged even tho i didnt even attacked him, guess imma just stay here, no point swinging at him ... he would certainly be able to dodge again" laugh

Originally Posted by Dez
HEY! WHAT DO YOU MEAAAAN!!! :'[ Most of us wrote a MUCH more elaborate response to this than "I would like it more". Imma be that person and quote myself from the mega topic:
True ... few words dissapeared as i edited the post. -_-
This one is on me ...

Dont get me wrong, i would also appreciate 6 members party ... and even tho i did write it in the end, it was not my intention to tell that nobody ever give better reason, i just wanted to say that its most common one.
But as i said, this is my misstake ... i should read my posts 3 times, since twice is obvously not enough, especialy when im editing. laugh

Originally Posted by Dez
First of all - I'll admit, I am not one of the people having D/N cycle as a priority. BUT, I very much get why people are asking for it, even if it is purely cosmetic
You and me both ...

That was just another example of something that most people usualy "simply demand" ...
But since i screwed the previous one so badly, it could never end as intented. laugh

Originally Posted by Dez
But... With that reasoning you're basically saying "I don't really need Larian to fix something until it bothers ME"? :|
What could i say ... guilty as charged. :-/

But dont we all?
I see topic ... i read it, i concider it ... and i ask myself: Will that suggestion affect my gameplay?
If not > i dont care.
If yes ... and i would like it > i support it.
If yes ... and i would not like it > im against it.
And finaly, wich is most usual for myself ... if im not quite sure, i start to talk about it. laugh

I presumed that is common method around here. O_o

Originally Posted by Dez
That is your personal experience and opinion. Which I, of course, respect and all that - but many of these issues are bigger than individual experiences and MIGHT be bad for the later game stages.
You are right ofcourse ...
But honestly? Im not really sure if anyone of us can provide anything else than personal experience, prefferences and opinion ... its not in human nature to express perfectly (and by that i mean without distortion) someone else experience. :-/
Like it or not, we are selfish creatures ... and therefore only when enough seflish experiences is gathered, the common experience can be created. wink

Or at least, that is what i believe. smile

Originally Posted by Dez
Hey, common. -_- You literally just spent more or less the entire first section of the thread to ask them to explain properly because it makes for a better argument.
That i did ...
And now see what responce i get. laugh

That is why i ask: "why even bother" ... and its something what i ask myself aswell, just try to gues how many hours i spend on this forum talking about ... anything i gues.
And what did it brings me, except for the reputation of the blind, the deaf, the stupid, the troll, ... insert any vulgarism ... person, that as it sometimes seem can be freely insulted, just bcs he decided to reply. laugh
But dont get false conclusion, im not going to stop ... laugh

Originally Posted by Dez
"Hey, I don't really feel like this is a big deal in the game as it is right now and I feel like changing it might cause more damage than it would help. Could you elaborate further to help me understand what you mean, and your reasoning behind it?"
Well, im still here. smile
And i believe most of coreusers on this forum allready noticed that i usualy dont stop responding, unless moderator came in ... laugh

True, i coud say that sentence ...
True, i would say it in every single topic, probably more than once at paige ...

On the other hand ... even tho i didnt ever use this sentence, i keep asking people another arguments, so in my own way ... i do. :-/


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown