Nothing wrong with wanting options. In the case of BG2 strongholds, the "options" here are precisely your options for class at the character creation screen. You pick your class, and the game bases on that to give you something special,
I know ... you allone mentioned it allready at least five times ... others even more ...
What i honestly dont know is why you keep repeating it. O_o
Do you believe that on 100th repeat i sudently see through and realize how brilliant and genius system it is?
Well, that is not going to happen i assure you. :-/
and you're saying you want options to choose other things intended for other classes?
Im trying really hard to not use the same words again ... but you dont make it easy. :-/
If every class get at least two, or three building to choose from, where:
1) One would be speficifcly for that Specialization
(Crypt for Necromancer, Fighting pits for Barbarian, Castle for Palain, Church for Cleric, Temple for Monk, Grove for Druid, etc.)
2) Another one would be something a little more common, more for Classes
(Library for casting classes, Stronghold with training grounds for meele (
ok, this word could be missunderstanded, lets say fighting)
classes, Tavern with some space to socialize for talking classes, some old Warehouse for i dunno hoarders 
, etc.)
3) And third one will be simple, boring, generic house in town ...
(Wich honestly is probably not even necesary, but it would be nice to have some option for characters who just want to have some place they can call home, withou being hero all the time.)I really dont know how to say it differently, if you dont get it from this. :-/
Necromancer (therefore casting class)
> Crypt (specialisation)
>> Library (type)
>>> House in Town (general)
Barbarian (therefore fighting class)
> Figting Pits (specialisation)
>> Stronghold with Training ground (type)
>>> House in Town (general)
Bard (therefore casting class, therefore social aka. talking class)
> Brothel (specialisation)
>> Library (type)
>> Tavern (type)
>>> House in Town (general)
Druid (therefore casting class)
> Grove (specialisation)
>> Librabry (type)
>>> House in Town (general)
Rogue (therefore fighting class)
> Warehouse, or Store (specialisation)
>> Stronghold with Training ground (type)
>>> House in Town (general)
What is so hard about it?
Its all written abowe. :-/
There is no "
intended for other classes" ... just another options, so your class dont shape the world. o_O
but if all they get is a person who seems to *want* be a manager yet dont have any experience ... they can allways hire him at lower position, and give him chance to work his way up.
Not saying this is completely impossible, but how many cases of this in real life do you actually know? Or are you just throwing around theoretical situations whose chances of happening are close to none but "no one can prove"? You're saying that a company looking for
senior manager would be willing to accept someone who has no experience whatsoever, and hope that in maybe 10-15 years he will become the manager they were hoping to get 10-15 years ago?
First ... it was your example, not mine ... we are talking here about accepting Rogue to become a Paladin ... wich is totally possible, even more when all it takes is simply pick it as second class at certain level.
Second ... yes, i know companies wich are focusing on personal growth of their own employees to fill those roles in the future ... usualy they say things like: "sucesfull company never have *too many* talented people", or "this would be good investment for the future", or similar shits.
Also ...
When i started about Multiclassing ...
How would YOU like to solve it?
I pick Druid in character creation ... therefore in your (aka BG2 model) i should Heeding the Spirit of the Grove ...
But what if i shall also pick Monk while exping ... therefore in your (aka BG2 model) i should Ruling the de'Arnise Keep and Lands ...
And in level 8, when i shall get my Stronghold ... i will be level 4 Druid and level 4 Monk ...
What should i get?
Im not sure how Multiclassing works, i searched but i didnt find any "minimum level requirement" ... so i dare to presume that the only limitation is Ability Score Minimum ... so feel free to ignore this question, if im wrong in this asumption.
And what about situation, where i will have 1 Druid level, but 7 Monk levels?
Should as you said "class at the character creation screen" be still the determinant?
And who said you're supposed to be able to?
Im glad you asked ... you did, by this sentence:
How does it make sense if an order of paladins would accept a thief into their ranks as a squire???But if you didnt, as you claim now ...
Please, enlighten me ... how should those Paladins know that person who is standing before them asking for membership for in their order, as a reward for some heoric deed ... is a Thief? :P
In a game, and this is not just BG2, you have to go through quests, talk to people, and from your conversations, your actions, other characters know what kind of profession you have. For each stronghold in BG2, you have to go through quests, tell people about who you are, you have to solve problems, show your abilities, and prove your capabilities. Another important factor here, specifically in the BG games, is your reputation. People know who you are because of your identity as well as your exploits both in Baldur's Gate and in Athkatla. You're not a no-name that no one knows anything about.
Well, its not exactly mine fault, that Rogue advanced class is named "Thief"
You would still go through quests, you would still talk to people, you would still have to have some actions, and conversations ... but unless your character actualy *steal* something and being caught you are not known as "Thief" ...
You are talking here about quests, solving problems, showing abilities, proving capabilities, reputation, deeds and exploits ...
Yet, all that can be done in Honorable way playing a Thief ... and yet nobody can know, all you have to do is *not stealing* ...
And therefore i ask using your own words:
How does it NOT make sense if an order of paladins would accept a thief into their ranks as a squire as long as your Thief is *not stealing*??? Again, you're trying to make generalized arguments while knowing nothing about the specific game we're discussing.
On the contrary, we are talking here about imaginary situation in game that is still in development.
The fact that another game had simmilar feature, is certainly good for some ideas ... but its not 10 commandments.
Remember I talked about submitting CV and going through interviews? That's how people find out what kind of experience and background you have. Or are you telling me when they ask you in your interview what kind of experience you have, you say no I don't want to tell you? And you want them to accept you for "lower positions"?
Using the same example? O_o
Okey, i can play along.
You managed to create good example of messed interwiev ... i hope you dont wish to tell me that this is the only way you can go.
Lets remember, that even this example was still only used as an example for simulating situation that we can find ingame ... so ingame rules must work for it, otherwise its false:
Company: What kind of experience for this position do you have?
1) I dont want to tell.
2) I dont have any to be honest, but i would like to start working here and get them.
3) [Deception] Well, i worked in the other company for last few years and i oversight a lot there.
4) [Intimidation] I have some compromising data in my phone, would you like to me to send them to your boss?
5) [Performance] Let me show you what i CAN do instead.
6) [Persuasion] Well, this would be a great opourtunity for me and even tho i would maybe not be the best employee since the day one, i learn pretty fast and i would be eternaly gratefull for such opourtunity.
7) [Investigation] I do know that this company is doing in inport export of steel weapons for Barbarians in the North ... believe me, i know what they want.
8) [Insight] I can see you want some guarantees ... i presume im not your first option and you probably are tired of meeting unexperienced people, but i can asure you that i can provide you the results you want.
9) [Perception] Do i see Management Manual, written by Mr. Try2Handing himself in your bookshelf? My, i readed that book too, i learned a lot from there.
And before you start complaining ... remember, once again ... it was YOUR example, not mine.
