It led Obsidian to bankrupcy so I think it solves POE2 sales question ^^"' But yeah, I heard it was past a million. Wasn't enough for the budget invested.
Bankruptcy? They did get bought by Microsoft, and had been struggling for years prior to that. But I wouldn't call that outright bankruptcy.
Kingmaker getting 2 million is good news though. Such an unexpectedly good game for me after I was mildly let down by PoE2's haphazard pacing in the end, even with all the bugs. Probably stood out to me more because it had such a fun and aytpical premise instead of trying to be epic with flowery writing. WotR so far is even better for me on so many levels, I've never had such confidence in a game before. I imagine it's going to be a DOS2-style breakout hit.
Originally Posted by Tuco
Poe 2 sales at launch were somewhere in the 100k ballpark if I remember right. If it was 1 million from the start Obsidian’s CEO would have danced naked on the company’s rooftop.
Yeah, I remember people were trying to extrapolate sales through Fig investment returns about 3 months after the fact. People figured that it probably sold about 200-300k in that time period. But probably the biggest sign of failure to me at the time was just how little chatter there was for each of the game's expansions. I think by the time the last expansion came out, I only saw like 5 threads on Reddit talking about it on release week, which was a clear sign that the project met disaster.
I would hope that taught all future cRPG developers not to plan for expansions, or at least don't announce a season pass before release, because that kind of model may backfire hard. I suspect what most people did was wait until all content was released first, and bought everything through sales, because cRPGs are infamously buggy out the door anyway.
Obsidian was not facing bankruptcy because of PoE2. It's part of the really crazy and silly things people have been saying related to PoE2.
In the same interviews where Obsidian people said PoE2 had surpassed 1 million in sales, they also said they broke even on PoE2 financially. So the game may have been a financial disappointment, but by no means was it a financial failure, even though that word--failure--gets thrown around liberally by people in forums like this one. And Obsidian has also said they have not closed the door to a PoE3 in the future, saying they see a potential market for it but their devs are a bit burned out on PoE and need to go work on other projects for a bit before returning to that IP.
As for TOW, whether it is a good or poor game is in the eye of the beholder. It is not a game for me, but that is purely because it is first person and I don't do first person. But clearly many gamers love the game, as evidenced by very strong sales numbers for its two expansions, and it has received strong critical praise and the announcement of a big-budget sequel.
