Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Strongholds in BG3

@Ragnarok Yeah pretty much. Bringing up BG2 so much in this thread is kinda obvious though, we weren't really shown any strongholds in BG3 and Larian didn't mention them in any way. So this entire thread will most likely consist of comparison to other games/ vague ideas. Which isn't bad but I guess it's the best we can do without having any initial idea from Larian.

What you mentioned earlier in the thread is probably what Larian will do if they decide to go for any kind of " stronghold" thingy tbh.

For now we have the camp and we can move objects around in it. So if Act II brings us to Baldur's Gate I would imagine having a similar system there ( Unless we literally camp outside the city like 2nd category citizens).

Ngl in my playthrough I totally spent 3-4 hours with a friend stealing assets from BG3 and bringing them back in the camp to make different areas. We changed the destroyed house in the back in a treasury with money everywhere. We counted how many coins were required to reach the biggest stack of money with the minimum amount of coins(500 if i remember correctly). I've stolen chairs from everywhere but couldn't find a table (sigh). Had to use crates instead. We had an altar and an alchemy bench. I guess you do what you want to do. Sims fans are among us so even if I really don't see the point of having dedicated tools for the retarded things I described above... it can be fun too ^^

Would be better if there was some kind of purpose to it. Either crafting, encounters requiring you to prepare some kind of defences giving you an advantage over the enemy ( HIGROUND ADVANTAGE. I SAID IT.), a quest requiring you to prepare some kind of ritual. Aaaah it can be a lot of fun. But I know I'm a minority in the " housing lover" aspect so there's that ^^

@Try2Handing There's clearing a missunderstanding or insisting on something you judge important and there's writing few pages A4 about " You don't know how BG2 feels like". Like he aknowledged it and answered you. Just focus on the topic.

My heart rejoice. Don't forget to gather your party before venturing forth!

Crazy, isn't it. The things you realize you're capable of doing.

Ah, that's too bad. But saying I don't read your posts, that hurts a little bit. I read everything you said, because whether the argument is pleasant or not, I want to do it right. I believed you read mine, the least I could do was returning the courtesy. Peace.


Back on topic...
That's the "Enhanced" edition. It may "look" better but I find it much more clunky in terms of controls, and more confusing in terms of GUI. And you're not skipping BG & TotSC I hope.

I am not sure if you can get the original <classic> edition on GOG. Thats how I got mine 8 years ago. Now it looks like its only those EE versions. Thats infuriating! I really do not like the EE edition; weird scaling, crap updated UI, even more bugs...the original looks sharper and amazing at its natural 4:3 aspect ratio on my 32 inch LCD at fullscreen. In Nvidia settings you just need to take Vsync off, scaling at <aspect ratio>, performed on GPU and check <overide scalling mode set by games>. In the BG2 config, select the 1024 resolution with 3D acceleration.

Yeah Beamdog removed the original games from GOG, so from what I gathered, you have to buy the EE first, then you can get the serial codes which let you redeem the old games.

Oh definitely. I didn't want to talk too much about this to Dez who is new to the franchise and doesn't need to hear it. There are little things that, surprisingly, makes the old BG2's controls and navigation much smoother (such as clicking on a text line during dialog lets you forward to the next line). And yeah, not getting too deep into this and opening a bag of worms, but when the enhanced edition introduces new bugs to the game, and modifies original contents (very subtly, of course)... you know there's a bigger problem here. From my point of view, this is disrespect toward the original games and is not acceptable.

Moving on...
This is probably something you can only do on a desktop computer, because I don't think I have these options on my laptop (GTX 970M). A shame, because recently there has been an unknown problem with my integrated Intel card and I can no longer access the settings that would let me scale BG2 full screen anymore (I've only ever used the Intel card to play). Now I have to play the unsupported 1024x768 without scaling - this is the only option with which the game even displays properly. To scale to full screen I have to disable 3D acceleration, which makes graphics look worse and the game laggy.

I think you guys talk about the pre-patch EE but right now it feels kinda smooth.

Not everyone agrees about the EE versions of BG1 and 2. I for one love the EEs, and find they both look and play way better than the originals.

... ... I wouldn't skip any of them... IF I knew what TotSC was? :'D

Tales of the Sword Coast, is that the one?

Yep. But no worries because they're always bundled together now, you can't miss it. Have fun!

Well, in that case you obviously are not part of that group i was taking about.
I really should have used singular ...

Hey i also re-played DA:O ... just few Weeks back, but i find their graphic to be quite good for theese days (i mean i still know newer games, that look a lot worse), and phenomenal for its release. O_o What is funny, i find graphic of DA:O being even better than DA II.
That is simmilar for VtM:Bloodlines ... wich i played even few Days back, and i still find it looking quite good ... kinda cartoonish, true, but that is kinda part of the experience.

And nostalgia probably helps me with both.

The other one you mentioned i didnt play ever, so i hardly can say anything about them.

In that case, you are indeed happy player.
I kinda envy you ... but that dont change the fact that my taste is different.

You dont understand me ...
I dont mind mentioning BG-2 at all ... as a source material of inspiration for BG-3 ... but nothing else. :-/

"It was like that in BG-2" is therefore not an argument for me, bcs if "in BG-2" was something otherwise than how i would like it in BG-3 ... then, obviously, i would like to change that, and therefore its completely irelevant how it was like there. O_o

What is wrong about having initianl idea? O_o
(Unless its some expression i dont get ... does that mean start the thinking about specific topic, based on specific idea?)

Honestly i hope so.

Someone around here allready mentioned, that it seem logical that our character should have some own house, or at least apartment in Baldur's Gate ... after all, unles we play Drow, or Gith ... we all have tag "BALDURIAN".
It would make sence that our character should have lived somewhere.

As far as i know, some kind of crafting was confrimmed allready ...
About the rest, im not really sure what do you mean. :-/

@Ragnar :

1)You dont understand me ...
I dont mind mentioning BG-2 at all ... as a source material of inspiration for BG-3 ... but nothing else. :-/

I do, that's pretty much what I mean too. BG2 is at most an inspiration and not the way things should be done(in terms of strongholds).


2) What is wrong about having initianl idea? O_o
(Unless its some expression i dont get ... does that mean start the thinking about specific topic, based on specific idea?)

My point was Larian didnd't present any stronghold right now apart from our camp. So we don't have any idea how they see stronghold implementation in the game ^^

3) About the rest, im not really sure what do you mean. :-/

I meant It woul be cool to have some encounters with enemies in the stronghold. Being able to get items for the stronghold itself, customize it etc. Items that would impact the way the potential battlefield looks. But I seriously doubt I will get it ^^

AD 3)
Yeah ... probably not ... but i agree, it would be cool.

No guilds = FAIL.

Guilds offer entertainment and camaraderie that the game alone can not produce. Replayability is the essence of any game... and guilds specialize in this. It should be of tremendous value to Larian.

I see this as a major oversight.

If you want to start a guild that is up to you, not Larian. This is not an MMORPG, so it's definitely not a fail from Larians side to not implement something like that. This is as much an SP game as it is MP.

I will be happy with a nice room at the Inn, with a hot bath and interesting patrons.

What to do with Skelitor though? (Loud screams down the hall).

Aside from why, how would you even implement guilds in a game like this?

Also, who would this be for? Characters are tied to specific game files, there is no central hub for people to hang out in, and most people who play this game will play it once and that’s it (as that’s how most people play most games). Among people who play this game multiplayer, many will be playing it with friends they know. So the percentage of people who will be playing this game regularly and continuously and will be looking for people to play it with is going to be only a fraction of the player base.

I would have preferred a single customizable base in Athkatla to the BG 2 strongholds, many of which were only accessible via a couple days travel. In BG three we don't have a tidy 6 characters to accommodate, but a larger number of followers/companions accustomed to having their own place in camp. I want accommodations that are conveniently located with access to any crafting facilities which are needed for gameplay purposes, e.g. alchemical equipment if we end up making potions with a those plants we've been collecting. and suited to the comfort of the entourage as a whole, not just Tav. Personally, I have trouble imagining characters like Halsin and Volo being willing to hang out in a corner of Tav's crypt until/if I happen to need them again.

Class-specific quests would be great, as would the opportunity to decorate Tav's personal space with items that reflect her class/interests.

And that would be PRECISELY our fraction of the player base! We are for gamers 30 years of age and older (with some rare exceptions.)

D&D is meant to be played IN GOOD COMPANY. And thats what we are. Tyrs Paladium. We are the "central hub". We have a niche and we specialize in that niche...

Any old heads, old school D&D gamers, old school RPG and/or MMO players that would like to REKINDLE MEMORIES of running with a great group of folks that love D&D and partying, WE MAY BE YOUR TICKET!

How will we implement our guild in BG3? Easy. On our forum and in our Discord. The social side of gaming should NEVER be discounted. Its a great way to make friends with people that you have something in common with.

Tyrs Paladium Guild
Established in 2008.



https://tyrspaladium.shivtr.com/?site_game_id=187802
Discord: Private.

Read our guild rules and if you think they are fair, fill out an application.

https://tyrspaladium.shivtr.com/pages/guildrules

That was the general, non-specific “you” in “how would you even implement guilds in a game like this?”

I was asking what features do you think Larian should have included whose omission that amounts to a major oversight?

Why do I get the feeling you made your original post just as an excuse to spam your ad again?