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I think this mod discussion is very theoretical at this point.
Now I am a very big mod enthusiast. I use mods for pretty much every pc game I play. And I think every mod user who uses mods as extensively as I do knows without any understanding of how to make mods that there is a big difference between Bethesda games and anything else.
As for the reason why that is, because I have no real understanding of how mod creation works, I can only guess. I assume it is both because of their popularity and the ease of mod creation. There are games with easy to make mods (like mount and blade) and there are games which are very popular (resident evil 2 remake) and hence have many mods, but I think only Bethesda engines enjoy both popularity and ease of use.
Moreover, Bethesda games creation kit and other tools allow the creators much more than skins and textures. This flexibility and ability to change almost every aspect of the game is pretty much unique and I never seen any other game engine which allows this amount of tinkering.
As for Baldur's Gate 3, although we already have a very active mod community (which is great news), I still think this is very early to say how flexible the game will be with mods, and how extensive the possible editions to the game will be.
And as a mod user who really don't know much about how to create mods, my default is to check out the other Larian game with similar engine.
Looking at the divinity original sin 2 mod site on the Nexus the situation is actually better than what I remembered. There are some gameplay altering mods, nothing major (for example, I couldn't find a mod to remove dos2 strange armour system that many people complained about) but still impressive. I also saw at least one quest mod and some new models. Which means it is possible to edit models, but the very small selection either indicates lack of interest of the mod community or hard process, don't know which. To summarize, judging by dos2 mod page, there is a potential here. Of course it doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same for Bg3, could be better and could be worse, but still a nice way to try and predict how the Bg3 mod scene will look like.
It is also important to note that if it wasn't clear, it seems nowhere close to Bethesda modding in terms of options. It is also important to note that even before release BG3 seems to be much more popular than DOS2 so this message that draw in more modders.
Now I agree with kanisatha and others here that a game should be good on its own and mods should only be an extra treat that enhances the game and improve its shelf life (like mods are for Baldur's Gate 2 for example). But I have to admit that if Baldur's Gate 3 will be modable to a satisfactory extent I will be very happy with it.
Some things I hope for when I say satisfactory - - a possibility to add more classes, subclasses and race that will work well. - some changes to the gameplay which will allow for a more faithful DND experience. - more armors and clothing (so far what we have is very limited and is using game assets) - more silly cool mods (we already have some of those like the wings mod)
The problem with modern modding - Even if the modding community will be super big and the game will be very easy to mod, there is one major thing that can't be easily modded - story and characters. Even if technically it will be possible, creating major story changes need voice acting and scripting in a very advanced level. And this is an aspect Larian can't fuck up on or we will be stuck with great modable game with bad story.
So far I was very optimistic in this comment, but now I'm gonna be a buzzkill and say that A) I don't think the game will allow extensive modding, at least not extensive enough as to offer everyone the experience they want from BG 3. Day night circle, rtwp, and even a reaction system are things that come to mind. If anyone can show me otherwise I'll be happy to be proven wrong. B) if the story and characters of this game won't be good enough, no amount of modding will be enough to fix this game for me. Dedicated fanbase can save a game (vampire bloodlines) but only if it has enough potential. Custom Campaigns, if its possible people will make there own stories. Example would be NwN1 & 2. Oh yeah totally forgot about that one. Super Important.
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How to make BG3 look a bit more like : a BG game, a DnD game, a new Larian video game.
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Maximuuus
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