I was talking about the special move (like the warrior round attack) of the rogue and not the spell / skill. Embrace Shadows is obviously nicer since there is no stamina drain, but I believe both ways result in the enemy not attacking you, and both are exploits / bugs. It's just that one makes more sense than the other. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />