Originally Posted by ShaolinStoner
Originally Posted by ExiledUser
There are too many posts like "LARIAN I DEMAND THIS", this post is "Larian, do what you have to do". Don't be afraid of disappointing narcissistic kids with low frustration tolerance.

I could not agree more. Being an old guy who started playing video games on an Atari 2600 back in the days when you could not contact developers let alone insist they do things the way you want them to I find it incredibly annoying that the people that bitch the most get listened to the most. Nobody ever complained that there were not enough barrels being thrown in Donkey Kong.

If all these whining people actually think that they know better then the people that make games for a living. People that make great games for a living. If you think you should be a developer then maybe you should learn how to develop games and make your own instead of trying to tell other people how to make theirs.

In the before times, the days before the internet, if you didn't like a game you didn't play it. You didn't write letter after letter after letter expecting them to change it to make it the way you want it. To me this reeks of selfishness.

Larian, make the game you want to make not the game a bunch of kids with nothing better to do are trying to push you into making. Feedback is fine but don't let it guide you in directions that stray from where you were originally going.

I have to point out that your comparison isn't really analagous here. I agree that in general there is a lot of entitelment and toxicity in the gaming community and that attitude is present in some form here in these forums, but crucially this is early access. Larian specifically invited people to play their game and share their feedback and opinions on it. I do think that some people's attitudes are pretty bad when they do so, but they are not only free to share their opinions, they've been encouraged. And from a certain point of view, one could say they have a responsibility to add their voice to proceedings. And on top of that, Larian hasn't given us a more constructive way to give our feedback and in-depth thoughts so people have to bring it up on the forums if they want to add their two cents. I'm sure if they wanted to, Larian could find a way to reduce (not fully elliminate, since they're only human after all) the amount of noice and argument in their forums, since a decent chunk of it is due to people not having another way to give feedback that they think will be heard.

If you're so behind Larian and in their corner, then you should accept all the feedback because they clearly want it and they want their fanbase to influence and direct how the game develops. It comes off as kind of arrogant when you tell the creators to ignore a section of their playerbase and do what they think is right when "what they think is right" explicitly includes asking for lots of feedback and opinion. If you think that what Larian has presented in this explicitly unfinished version of their game is good enough, that's great. I hope the end result is a game that you enjoy. I also fully support you voicing your enjoyment for elements of the game, positive feedback is important too. And yes, there are certainly elements in the forums that have bad attitudes. But you shouldn't be advocating Larian ignore people. Larian are all adults. They know what they're doing and can decide who they will and won't listen to without you.