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Ripley was written as her last name and that's that. But yeah, the assumed gender was male in the script. At the time, the actress (Sigourney Weaver) who played her was really excited about a character who was not defined by gender but by their humanity and agency first and foremost.

And yes, the cinematography of Alien did present Ripley as a male character, avoiding camera moves that would visually feminize her (one example, she was often portrayed having one side of her face in the shadows and the other illuminated, which a visual clue for deep contemplation and was previously rarely afforded for female movie characters).

I do think a lot of male creators should do this, assign gender as the last thing they do, maybe then we could leave behind this "strong female character" bullshit, the notion that writing a woman with any agency must have some sinister underlying purpose to it.


I cannot tell if you are joking or you are seriously this misogynistic...

Sure and then also others should avoid that topic if we can not agree on that.

Now Solasta hmm as great game? I am still level 5 and have not played it for a long time now? How can it be so great game when have not wanted to play it now for a while?' Max level in Solasta is roughly level 10 so I have not come very far in Solasta.
BG3 you can not get past level 4 in Early Access so no point discussion what level I have reached in BG3 EA though yes I have reached level 4 in BG3 Early
Access.

Now I do feel I will play Solasta more at some point during this week.

OMG, I agree 100%. Start with your character and motivations divested from gender and then come back and assign it after the fact. I think we would get such a better range of interesting characters from that process.

It reminds me of my favorite Sci-Fi writer (deceased) Iain M. Banks - he wrote a book called The Player of Games which is based on a far future utopian, post material society run by Ship Minds called The Culture. The society has its own synthetically created language called Marain which is distinct from most organic evolved languages in that it has only a single pronoun for sentients - male, female, AI, Minds, Drones. Banks contrasts Marain to English by pointing out the major flaw in our language is that it substitutes aggression for cooperation and sentimentality for compassion. Using any language forces you to adopt that languages underlying ethical framework. Marain solves this and frees users from those enforced frameworks.

Anyway, the main character (Gurgeh) from the Culture is heading to a more primitive society with an evolved language and the Minds have to explain to him what the words "the Dominant Sex" means. And I thought to myself, "when we get to the point that "dominant sex" has to be explained we will have become an equal society."

Anyway, loved your post and your deep dive into Alien. Its one of my favorite movies.

Thanks for the scifi nod. I could recommend Ursula Le Guin's Left Hand of Darkness, as a really interesting examination of gender in scifi. It is about a human diplomat who goes to a alien culture who can shift their gender at will and he is utterly confused how to socialize with them... it is one of the best scifi book I have ever read.

I LOVE the Left Hand of Darkness. I read it when I was 14, and then later when I was 32. One of THE best sci-fi books ever written, ever!

We are now friends forever!

agreed to writing a badass character first and then saying "hey, let's have 'x' actor play them" regardless of gender. Weaver was simply perfect for Ripley.

You go offtopic. I can not answer more then say that was not a joke and I meant every word I said. I rarely joke at forums though one point joked about food healing in BG3, but now they have fixed that in patch 5 that food does not heal in BG3 (food used in resting though). You are rude and learn to behave specially when moderator already told do not talk about this.

BG3 I feel have made great progress in patch 5 fixing bugs and issues. In patch 6 I hope focus is more on adding more content example a new class and perhaps even more then that example also a race to BG3 patch 6?

Solasta progress? Well they have released Sorceror class past full release however they could still add more classes to Solasta far from all classes from PHB available in Solasta.

Well though it is nice can play Paladin in Solasta since BG3 EA does not currently have Paladin. Likewise Druid class in BG3 EA feel extra nice when Solasta does not have Druid class.

I love that Baldur's gate 3 in multiplayer gives everyone such an incredible range of actions both helpful and harmful to the party.

Sometimes I like to break a barrel full of firewine, or oil near a bunch of people and then throw a lit torch into it. This results in a massive explosion and all the NPC's turning hostile.

Then I yell in discord "Who the hell lit this massive fire and started this fight? Somebody fess up now!" of course the truth comes out eventually and everybody laughs.

Its not something you can do in Solasta.

And its less amusing in real life of course. Positively frowned on at the dinner table.

Are you a troll or? Who can spell Asia as 'Asiaa' twice. Also your mindset is something between a man that thinks he is an misogynistic alpha male and a 5 year old boy that can't spell nor truly write anything that makes sense. Just delete those misogynistic posts or your account

This is great feedback. Yes multiplayer is one of the strongest positive side of BG3 vs Solasta. I do not answer other poster only reported that poster and my first language is not English so of course I can do spelling mistakes. No I will delete nothing and you can read it forever and meant every word.

really? you made this account just for this post? Take some time and re-evaluate your decisions please. No need to just straight up insult people like that. People here can be an aquired taste for sure (who isn't on this forum lol) but that's no reason to spew that awfulness.

Calm down guys. I believe I've warned you several times before, Terminator. If you bring up anything at all in regards to genders, feminism or anything of the like again under any context (edit: context that has nothing to do with the thread in a derailing manner), I will suspend you. This is a thread about BG3/Solasta, and most threads are about video games. Things have a time and place, and some things have better arenas fit for other discussions. Back on topic people.

Off topic

About the topic. I like both solasta and bg3 for what they are

Stop trying to have the last word; not a great look right after a moderator has asked for calm.

Given the number of reports this topic has generated in the past few days, further comments about other forum members or attempting to be a contrarian is likely to result in suspension.

I can't even believe this topic is still going.

Solasta is a good game, but it pales in comparison to ehat they've already done with BG3. Let's give this one up already, eh? I'll play BG3 100 times more than Solasta...ha! I already am.

BG3 is AAA game and does not CRASH to me Windows as Solasta does sometimes.
Solasta graphics look awful the characters look like dolls. While BG3 companisons look very good.
BG3 is much better graphics and have movie like story effects and Solasta looks like a very old game and is unstable while BG3 works stable specially after some patches.
BG3 as AAA game support multiplayer up to maximum 4 player. Solasta is single player only.
BG3 has been much improved in Patch 5 no longer does food for example heal and they have fixed jumping issues. Well and Thief should not be S Tier in DnD. No locker does backstab give advantage rolls in BG3. Now in order to push people in BG3 you really need strength. That comes to fact that if you want to make a melee character now in BG3 then perhaps Thief is not best option.

There are few things I find better in Solasta. Solasta has a Dungeon creator so players can create Dungeons that other players can play.
Camera control though I have not tried yet patch 5 in BG3 myself do not know if camera has been changed in patches.
BG3 does not have day/night cycle as Solasta.

That said I still rate BG3 as clear AAA game crystal clear better then Solasta. If not anything else I can play with my brother and friends together BG3 while Solasta is only single player game.

Ok some of you might think. but maybe I have bad computer? Why then does BG3 work stable and many other games, but not Solasta?

This is my desktop hardware, bought year 2018 so not saying it is super hardware by long shot, but good enough for BG3 and Solasta MAXIMUM graphics at FULL HD resolution.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Processor in TURBO mode 4.2 Ghz
Socket-AM4, 6-Cores, 12-Threads

Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PLUS, Socket-AM4 Motherboard, ATX, X470, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16,
CFX, 2x M.2, USB 3.1, Mystic Light RGB

GPU: Nvidia 1070 Titanium 8GB DDR5

RAM: 16 GB to be more exact:
G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 16GB KIT 3200Mhz
2x8GB, PC25600/3200Mhz, 16GVBK, CL 16

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB, 2,5

HDD:Separately have none SSD hardrives one of them new:
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5'' HDD

Power: Seasonic Focus+ 650W 80+ GOLD PSU ATX 12V, 80 Plus Gold, Modular

OS: Windows 10

And that is kind of experience I find no joy in, but that made D:OS2 popular I guess. And is so, not an RPG or Baldurs Gate experience.

I will be an old man and say: twitch damaged gaming.

There is nothing wrong playing alone.
There are also those who play with other people, but also run another game as alone since in multiplayer cooperative it can be sometimes hard to agree on when to play. I belong to those people that will play BG3 with both other people and alone (except companions so not so alone feeling).

I do not understand when you say that BG3 is not roleplay??? How would Solasta be more roleplay then BG3?

I really do not care how other people want to play. Yes some multiplayer might play like use much roleplay and some might never play like roleplay and simple have fun then let them.

You can play alone if you want nothing wrong in it. However I do understand when you think BG3 is not RPG and Solasta is?
You can run Solasta and like never care much for any roleplay simple fast click and do not care to read any discussion. How much people use roleplay is up to them. Nothing wrong playing without RPG. Nothing wrong playing with RPG.

If you mean that like an old player you personally like to see old kind of graphics? If that is the issue well then I guess play games that look less good as DOS2 or BG3. However please do not claim that BG3 is not a roleplay game.

Gatekeeping aside. The original games had multiplayer and you could attack your fellow party members and engage in other harmful actions.

So again - according to you the original Baldur's Gate games were not Baldur's Gate games.

I can only surmise that the original games simply did not exist and they are simply a collective hallucination. Maybe its related to the "Berenstein/Berenstain Bears situation. Popular theory is that we all got shunted into an alternate dimensions some 15 years back.

Just Kidding - it's also a common aspect of most RPG's to allow a range of behaviors within reason.

Although if that is your thing, there are some Christian Themed RPG's that you may like. They don't allow harmful actions. I think you actually just sing songs at the monsters and they repent or something...

Well and yes I have been told when asked in forums by other forum members is that BG3 will also get good alignment companions. All companions are likely not even released in Early Access and maybe this is my theory we can meet other companions in Act 2. One can not say we know for sure all the companions that will be in BG3. Finally they have made changes to companion behavior in BG3 patches to little less hostile towards the player.

This is funny I am not so super interested to create a character with high CHARISMA unless my class other ways benefit from it example Paladin or Sorceror.
I had Charisma 12 in early patch and when I refused to kill Lazael I can say Shadowhearth was not happy with me and I felt like nobody in the group was truly happy. Lazael and Shadowhearth seems to hate each other more or less. Well and even if Charisma 10 one should not be treated like an annoying people.

I do understand Lazael. She is like Vikings she simply look down on weak people. Her race does also attack other races. However one thing is true her race hates Mindflayers they are like their number 1 enemies.
Lazael want action and there is nothing like equal in her minds you should be good kill or be killed and she is Fighter like to kill! I do understand from where she is coming from. Her race was slaved by Mindflayers. They started to Worship an Evil Dragon God. Because of that a minority of red Dragons are allied with them and then rest Red Dragons at least do not attack them. The Red dragons made that their race Githyanki more or less found freedom from slavery from Mindflayers.

Because of that many of them worship the very Evil Dragon God. Interesting story is that the person they send to talk with Red Dragon God was never seen again (likely eaten) however the Dragon God indeed made a pact and agreed to help Githyanki in return Githyanki worship the very Evil Dragon God.

Yes her race is Evil (well at least the majority of them), but they were raised as slaves in a merciless world and have like Vikings idea yes you raid other people kill them is ok. At least they Githyanki are mortal enemies to Mindflayers that they hate above all.

There is more tension among companions (Lazael and Shadowhearth hate each other) in BG3 then Solasta. If you dont like that kind of thing then in Solasta they agree more and less tension. That said as I said I suspect even more companions will be available at full release in BG3. If you do not like tension then play BG3 with a group that agree more with each other.

Personally I will not tell all the reasons I like Lazael that goes offftopic, but she can become strong Fighter in the group as a Battlemaster. In BG3 I find Lazael in the group more interesting since I usually do not like to take most Evil route Lazael might not be so happy. Well and since my main character is not a melee first in line character there you go... have not found any better fighter companion.

Solasta discussion makes me often yawn and fast click they are boring (and ugly dolls) and not even once have my group in Solasta been keen on say PvP against each other or say even crystal clear heated quarrel despite I have not them all same alignment.

Well and if we talk about that a party that can agree with each other it was more fun to listen to comments in old BG1 and BG2 games. I find the Solasta characters discussion boring ugly dolls.