Originally Posted by Boblawblah
It's funny, i wonder if the character of Ellen Ripley (from the movie series 'Alien' to anyone who doesn't know) was written in modern times would people think she's a "woke" character meant to subvert norms? I think you do a disservice to strong female characters to automatically assume they're supposed to represent the fight against the patriarchy. Maybe they are, i don't know, but to me they just seemed like strong, slightly abrasive characters. I didn't even particularly like either one of them.

Ellen Ripley goes so far beyond anything like that she makes woke seem as superficial as it actually is.

-She was written as a man.
-She saves male characters from being raped
-She is choregraphed during the final fight scene (which uses pornographic lighting and imagery) as penetrating the alien with a phallus.

All of this is intentional. Nobody has taken subversion to this extreme since that movie. Its one of the reasons Alien is explored in Film Classes.

This is what happens when you take something and create Art for the sake of Art and not worry about metrics.

Last edited by Blackheifer; 03/08/21 01:18 AM.
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