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Look. I don't care whether they show you the levels or not, and I'm not one for making the enemies totally so overpowered that the player gets frustrated that they are so tough and the boss battle has to be replayed a thousand times just to beat it.
All I'm saying is, storywise, these characters are weak and don't make sense. When this game finally rolls out, I'll wager that, again, unless you rush right to the bosses, you're going to have a party of level 5 or 6 characters, and Halsin needs to be a LOT tougher than they make him out to be when you encounter him in the prison. If he is a LOT tougher, than Ragzlin and Minthara should, at the very least, be a lot tougher. Also, if Kagha is Halsin's replacement, she should not be some low level druid at like level 4. Same with Olodan and Rath. These characters should be much tougher than they currently are.
Now, I understand we're in EA, so as someone pointed out, they may simply have them at this low of a level because of the level 4 cap. When the final game rolls out, maybe they will have them all at higher levels.
But that's all I'm suggesting. I don't care about EA so much as long as when the game is finally rolled out it makes sense. Right now, I feel like the entire Emerald Grove is full of baby weaklings. It's not a serious Druid Grove. It's a baby wanna be Druid Grove and Halsin's weaker than my PCs instead of the Accomplished Healer everyone makes him out to be. I'm sorry, but if an archdruid was taken out by a bunch of goblins, there HAS to be a much better reason for it.
Shoot! I don't care if they give me a good reason like, "I allowed them to capture me so I might learn more about what was really going on with the Absolute." Don't have him tell me, "Thank goodness you arrived and saved me. Pshew! If it wasn't for you, I'd have been fed to a couple of worgs in the adjoining cell."
I mean, Halsin was being guarded by 3 goblin kids, a goblin brawler, a goblin beast tamer, I think 2 other goblins, and 2 worgs. An ARCHDRUID??? He couldn't get out of that? He needed my level 4 party to save him? Makes no sense at all.
So give me some valid reasoning. Halsin says to my character, "Well, thanks for the help, Friend, but I was actually here trying to gain more information about this cult. I could have escaped at any time, if I'd wanted to." Then I tell him about how Kagha was trying to take over the grove and such, and then he says, "Dang! Well, I'm glad you came when you did then. Forgive me for being a bit upset earlier for interfering with my plans. I thought I'd left the grove in good hands. I see I was wrong. Thank you for your help. I shall return as soon as I can to put things right."
I mean, do you guys realize how powerful an archdruid is supposed to be? Level 10 doesn't REALLY do it justice, but it's at least more believable. I'm just saying, Halsin alone should be able to wipe out the entire goblin camp and kill Ragzlin, Gut and Minthara at the levels they are at in the game. A few ice storms, conjure animals, engangle a few dozen of them, and those aren't even the most powerful spells he should have at his disposal.
So yeah, there needs to be at least some sort of explanation or something.
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11/08/21 03:30 AM
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