Originally Posted by Zellin
Originally Posted by Chukkensorc
I’m really not. According to many many spells in 5E, they have a verbal component. I’m not saying that it is canon to shout like Skyrim. I’m saying it has been this way since BG1.
No, again. You're mistaking one thing for another, and maybe you should try to read more carefully. We all here are well aware about verbal component existence. The problem discussed in this thread is that characters shout at full capacity of their lungs for every verbal component.

Again….this is super common in CRPGs. BG1, BG2, IceWind Dale, Neverwinter Nights (to a lesser extent), etc. It’s a trope, sure. To say I don’t understand the discussion is very dismissive. Being able to whisper cast a spell without an enemy hearing it isn’t in the 5E rule set outside of metamagic. This is a 5E game. Whisper casting won’t be a thing.