Originally Posted by KingTiki
The Wizard that rolls 4d6 drop lowest and gets 3 18s can easily have max INT, DEX and CON at level 4.

No he can't.

Please enlighent me how that can be 'easily' achieved.

And again, three 18s is a chance in over ten thousand. It's not worth considering; if the situation comes up at your table, and if the players feel it's a problem, then you have a brief discussion about it like mature adults and settle on something that everyone is happy with. If you're that one-in-ten-thousand table, well... let's be honest: you're not.

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This means 18AC, huge HP boost + way better CON saves, and also best spell attack modifier + save DC for any given level.

In a realistic discussion, we're talking about a characterting with *A*, singular, 18 on their rolls.

So, Better, you say... Better than? The wizard that values those same stats, but rolls the expected average? Because the Wizard with the 18 on their dice rolls has 20 Int. At level 4, the Wizard with the average expected roll who favoured Int ahead of all else *Also* has 20 Int now. The wizard with the high start might have the freedom to take a feat earlier than expected - provided that they don't feel the need to bring up a weaker stat that they also rolled, and which the average roller with the same play-values does not need to do... which is the far more likely situation.

It does not, ultimately, make muhc of a difference at all beyond level 4 - and in those early, *fast* levels it provides a slight edge, nothing more. Certianly nothing to get worked up over or go crying op-ness about, not by a long, long shot.

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Originally Posted by ArvGuy
Notice that Ragnarok rolled 6d20, not 4d6 drop lowest per stat.

Yes..... that's what I'm questioning. Why? To what end? It's a head-scratcher.

Last edited by Niara; 13/08/21 01:11 PM.