Originally Posted by IdPreferNotTo
Nah... I associate sex positivity with having the necessary space and time to actually figure out stuff like; what and who you desire, and how, and in what form, do you want to be desired etc. And of course being able to act out those desires, without the inertia of oppressive culture dictating these things for you.

And let's face it the drow culture, apparently initially conceived as a inverted parody/fantasy of feminism/patriarchy, is suffocating in this regard, and Minthara is pretty much the shattered product of said culture with markedly little agency of her own. As far as the S&M -genre is concerned, I don't think a person like Minthara, so lacking in agency, qualifies as a domme, since you're submitting primarily to the organization she's incorporated into as a puppet, not to a person.

Yeah, I mean you're definitely correct, but for a not particularly sophisticated game that still wants to go there, she certainly hops to in this one at the celebration. I guess where I was driving was that of course the sex freaks in act 1 would be the foppish vampire, the evil drow psycho, and Abdirak lord of pain. I still think it would be funnier if Sazza was the crooner, or if Gale was the total slut in the group or whatever, but its like we sort of know what we're going to get here. They're playing it pretty safe for the most part. Where we get easy Evil sex on the one side, and none on the other. In that case the over the top Evil version becomes the sex positive one by default. I didn't even know that the camp celebration was supposed to be a big bang-athon, until trying the darkside path. The approval for the other companions needs to be relatively high, except for Astarion, who clearly is just bored enough to try anything at that point lol. If you don't waste time and resolve the Druid/Goblin path according to when the story beats indicate rather than running off to random places, its possible Minthara is the only one trying to dive in bed along the Goblin path, so it makes a certain sense that she stands out and others take a back seat. I was actually surprised that no tieflings are trying to get off going the other way with it. But anyhow, yeah I do think its part of why Minthara's appearance is coming up against more stumbling blocks, cause she has the sex with the PCs angle going on. I think she was thrown into the mix to heighten the darkside raging hormone appeal of stupid Gobbo choices, and like a definite Lae'z menage a trois dilemma written all over her, between the Gith or Shadowheart or her. Like who's going to be the most Evil night cap? I'm sure it's all in good fun. But honestly they should do a little more of the "Who do you dream of" maybe to define the appearances based on player preference there, if they want to play that part up.

I mean they give us basically a sub-character creator to select certain cosmetic preferences, and the first up in that menu is a female drow model. So it's sort of like, why aren't they using Daisy more in that way? It would be more fun like Total Recall.

That's a fair point about white hair, making sure blond haired people are happy with the modelling is bound to be a priority I guess. I think her brows and lashes were better before though. None of the character or monster designs in this game seem particularly graphic or intentionally stylized and cartoonish, when the vibe otherwise is all ultra-real. So seeing them push that direction for this character now feels sort of out of place, especially when we put her up next to herself, and want to get all extra critical about it in the mirror. It does make me wonder though about who the concept artist was, or if she even had any concept art to begin with?

Last edited by Black_Elk; 16/08/21 03:23 PM.