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Please add Halsin as a romanceable companion!

I'll see myself out now cool

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Agree!!! I hope they make him a companion. celebrate

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I don't need him romanceable personally, but yes, he would make a great companion.


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Why though


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First he needs to be level 11 to make any sense as an archdruid of a large circle.

Then we can assess whether or not a level 11+ character who is a leader of a Druid Order is suitable as a companion for a level 1-4 party. Or if he would, by any chance, serve the setting and the story better as a powerful NPC.

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My man is probably a poser. He got captured by a bunch of goblins, and spent who knows how long getting stoned by kid-goblins. No way he's lvl 11.

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Originally Posted by Abits
Why though
Why not?

Originally Posted by Innateagle
My man is probably a poser. He got captured by a bunch of goblins, and spent who knows how long getting stoned by kid-goblins.
Did he tho? smile
Is he really poser, or sucessfull infiltrator? :P

His goal was not to fight the goblins (at least not originaly) but to get inside the temple and search for entrance to underdark ...
Once he seen that Aradin and his group was runing, he transformed into bear and let them capture him (even if they would try to kill him, no harm can be done to him, since druids return to their original form with full HP laugh ... not sure if that aply for fighting him in that prison tho) ...
His plan worked, he managed to get inside the temple and had minimum guards around him ... all he needed to do was to wait, until everyone will leave, then turn into mouse or ferret or w/e small animal he do (and he do, you can see it when you talk to him after telling Minthara where the Grove is) and simply leave the cage and start searching for the entrance ... you could see that Goblins were ignoring all those rats, so he could blend between them easily. :P
Then few kids showed up and throw rocks at him ... it might be unpleasant, but again, no real danger ...
Then, when we showed up ... we either start encouraging kids to actualy hurt him, or we want to attack goblins ... either way his cower would be blown ... therefore since that moment there is no reason for him to remain there, he decided to free himself ... wich, as you could possibly see was no problem for him. laugh


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Powerful NPCs and monsters are needed to establish a power scale in the world.

An NPC in a position of power like Halsin as an archdruid should be completely out of your league in the beginning. Then by the end of the game you're more or less his equal and that reflects your growth during your journey.

Or they can be narrative tools like Gorion in BG1. A powerful old wizard but he is killed in front of your eyes. This tells you how powerful your nemesis is and puts the fear in you.

If Halsin would be lowered to companion status around level 4, an archdruid would mean nothing in the setting where a PC is always the "top dog" regardless of level. No room for growth if you're always as powerful as the "most powerful" NPCs.

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Originally Posted by 1varangian
If Halsin would be lowered to companion status around level 4, an archdruid would mean nothing in the setting where a PC is always the "top dog" regardless of level. No room for growth if you're always as powerful as the "most powerful" NPCs.
That would be good argument in game where that "big powerfull NPC" dont come to kill us if we make certain decisions. wink

I mean, he is clearly designed so we will be able kill him (and its not even one of hardest fight in game ... i mean technicaly, my soul was ripped appart) ...
So, what damage it would made if he would also be designed as someone who can aid us in battle? laugh


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Being killable with the collaborative effort of the whole party and matching 1:1 the player are two very different things, anyway.

That's also what sets apart most villains.


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So maybe he could be just romanceable? He should be playing hard to get though, being at least level 11.

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He can already join the party temporarily in the goblin camp, and he isn’t level 11.

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Originally Posted by Icelyn
He can already join the party temporarily in the goblin camp, and he isn’t level 11.

The latter is precisely part of the problem.
He has no business being a level 5 character in the role of an archdruid.

Then again his stats DO NOT match a level 5 character. So there are several mistakes piling up on top of each other here.

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I guess it would not be hard to create a story that explain how Halsin recently become the new leader of the grove even if he's not a archdruid.

I'd also like him to become a non origin companion but obviously he can't be a lvl 4 or 5 archdruid, it does not make any sense.

The story and the world lack of coherence. It's not the first exemple we talked about and probably not the last.

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I think he's just with stats like this until we have more content. I doubt he'd supposed to be such a low lvl. He and maybe some other non origin companions (if that happens) are meant to enter the group later, or replace companions we may lose.

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Originally Posted by Maximuuus
I guess it would not be hard to create a story that explain how Halsin recently become the new leader of the grove even if he's not a archdruid.
Sounds great! smile

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Halsin was always described as an archdruid, a master, a leader and a powerful healer. The party is looking for him for help as he seems to be their only chance. He is not a low level companion but a high level powerful NPC. Why can't everyone accept him as such?

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who calls him an archdruid? I mean, I believe I talked with everyone in the grove and everyone just talks as if he's a druid, no one ever mentioned him as an Archdruid from what I can remember. This is an honest question, I'd like to know which npc says he's an Archdruid, I'm always looking for new dialogues, etc that I can find.

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You guys are too focused on levels, so you cannot see anything beyond. :-/
Once Halsin would not have any number visible next to his name, nobody would say half word about how he "never can be Archdruid". -_-

So ... we all can see that levels are nice way to express potential power of character, but we also SHOULD be able to see that in this particular case it would be extremely limiting from story perspective and will cause more problems than how many benefits it would bring (yeah you guessed right, none).
So lets ask Larian to rename his title to semi-Archdruid, Archdruid-Junior, or Acting-Archdruid or whatever else shit you can made, since mine vocabulary ends here. :-/

Originally Posted by Avallonkao
I think he's just with stats like this until we have more content. I doubt he'd supposed to be such a low lvl. He and maybe some other non origin companions (if that happens) are meant to enter the group later, or replace companions we may lose.
Exactly what i say for around half year around here ... laugh
I believed that we will resolve our tadpole problem at Moonrise Towers, maybe not completely ... but at least to some point where our characters will believe they do not need to worry about turning into squid any time soon.
Then, as Larian litteraly said to us, we would have to "commit" ... wich i personaly (on the contrary to majority of this forum, who for some to me unknown reason take it as "every companion you dont have in party in that moment will die") understands as "you will pick one Origin character, and follow his personal quest ... maybe others who will like you will join you, unless their personal quest will lead somewhere else".

And THAT in my humble opinion would be perfect spot for Non-Tadpoled (read as Non-Origin) companions will be presented to us. :P
And yes ... that means Halsin, that probably could mean Minthara, that probably could mean Alfira (once we reach Baldurs gate, or meet her in our way there) ... etc. etc.
But it seems i was kinda wrong. :-/
Since in last Panel From Hells Swen litteraly tells us that they are "concidering to allow level 5 in Act 1" ... wich could (and i would like to point out that this is just mine interpretation) mean that level 4 would not be just cap for EA, but for whole Act 1 in full release (is it just me, or does that really sound like worse idea ever?). :-/
Wich would mean that since Halsin is actualy level 7 (unless i remember it icorrectly) ... we would probably reach his power level (and therefore he would be aviable for us as a companion) somewhere around end of Act 2. :-/

//Edit: (after watching several videos on youtube)
I find out that Halsin is actualy level 5 (so yes, i remembered incorrectly) ...
So, act like i didnt say anything. laugh He could follow our group without any power-struggles.

Originally Posted by Avallonkao
who calls him an archdruid? I mean, I believe I talked with everyone in the grove and everyone just talks as if he's a druid, no one ever mentioned him as an Archdruid from what I can remember. This is an honest question, I'd like to know which npc says he's an Archdruid, I'm always looking for new dialogues, etc that I can find.
Nope ...
The title he uses when he introduces himself to you is:
"Halsin, First Druid of The Emerald Grove" smile

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