There's some interesting reference material in the extras to go through in the mean time. My biggest worry for this game is keeping my expectations in check considering how much it's been talked up around here.
Expectations that are unreasonably high are always the core problem that keep people from enjoying anything in life, video games included.
Personally don't really have many expectations thus far, as I've tried not to delve too deeply into looking things up about the setting or the game as a whole. I only checked out some of the companions, and which were romance options, as well as a cursory look at the classes available - but everything will be pretty fresh going in, so I hope to have a good time! I can be a little picky with cRPGs, but if it's anything to the polish of Pillars of Eternity on release, I at least anticipate it hooking me in the first hour or so.
Originally Posted by Sancrest
Well I was interested in Pathfinder but I won't be buying the game after reading this discussion. To be honest the reason is what I have seen here, comparing apples and oranges and telling people orange is objectively a better fruit and some people off key belittling BG3 fandom pushed me away. I grew up playing cRPG's and Desktop FRP games, both games does things correctly or wrong. Both Pathfinder and Baldur's Gate 3 are enjoyable games but elitist people who thinks they have right to force their opinion on others aggressively telling people that they have to like WotF is wrong.
I played Baldur's Gate 1&2 several times, I don't think mechanics-wise BG3 is a successor but for me it doesn't have to be 1-1 same mechanics. What I experienced from BG3 is a semblance of a desktop FRP game. Classes are what I expect them to be, characters are fun, since we only played the opening act we only scratched the surface.
Pathfinder Kingmaker was the cRPG I love. I enjoyed the game, characters and environments.
I will not play WotF, am I missing out, certainly. It will be the first cRPG I will not play. Thanks to the fans of the game.
This stance seems... very silly to me, if you want my honest opinion. I full well understand wanting to avoid a fandom for reasons such as stated, but avoiding the product itself simply because of a few people early on in the thread (many of whom either had some... very strange ways of thinking, or were simply trolls) just seems like shooting yourself in the foot for no real reason. Why deprive yourself of something you're sure to love simply due to a few less-than-stellar people using the game as a thinly-veiled way to beat at BG3 with sticks? It's your choice in the end, but it just doesn't seem like that understandable of a position or way of thinking. I hope you reconsider and enjoy WotR along with many others, including some of us here on the forums!
Originally Posted by mr_planescapist
Nice basic WoTr guide if starting out with this series.
I... may check this out here before bed, just to be prepared for tomorrow a wee bit. Thanks!
Originally Posted by _Vic_
Originally Posted by mrfuji3
!excite
Preferably without spoiling me too much, is there a class in WotR that's particularly bad for my MC, a role that the (important/"cannon") companions fill/overfill?
E.g., in Kingmaker Amiri always joins you, Linzi is the chronicler of your adventurers, and you get 2 clerics (one of which has strong ties to the story), so picking a MC Barbarian/Bard/Cleric is a bit redundant. (I want to argue that Valerie is also a "core companion," but that's probably because of my personal preferences to not play a tank, meaning that she is ~required in all my Km parties).
If you are talking roles (its implausible to reach all classes), there are roughly two for every basic RPG role
Three fighters (Pally, Slayer and hellknight)
Three ranged fighters ( you can only pick two)
Two rangers (demon and undead)
two dedicated healers (oracle and cleric)
A pure wizard
An eldrich rogue ( rogue with wizard spellcasting)
Two versatile casters ( Shaman and witch)
Optionally there are also some companions tied to some of the Mythic paths, the pets you can also level up and equip with items and the talking weapon (for banters only)
So I think you can be any class you want, you can make a party that suits you.
This is a good run-down to keep note of, as I try not to overburden my party with too many of the same thing if I can help it. I still often tend to run with characters I like best, of course, but having these footnotes will at least assist in planning out my first run through.
We do know there’s going to be a day one patch, so we’ll see then.
It doesn’t seem like it’s going to be anywhere near as bad as the shitshow that Kingmaker launch was. The last 2-3 chapters were straight up unfinished there.
Here's hoping the bugs aren't that bad - though with any luck I'll be home and ready to play it after the day one patch is out.
