Telling other people that their feedback is not valid is not okay. You did this. I'd appreciate it, personally, if neither you, nor anyone else, did that. That's all. I apologise if you felt personally attacked - I quoted you primarily, but the remark was intended to be phased in an open way to anyone reading as well, not just you specifically.
I never said that peoples feedback isent valid. I said it isent helpful if its overly generic. But can understand that it might come across like that. English isent my main language and maybe not for everyone involved here, but I can come across as rude or direct at times. Im Dutch and people often misunderstand directness or however its called for beeing rude or commanding. Maybe that shines through a little to my English as well, il try to keep that in mind. Il try to rephrase what I mean and hope it comes across better that way. I dont feel personally attacked by you though, no need to apolagize
There is merit in providing feedback, even if it is non-constructive; but only up and til a point. If plenty of people (like in the example of the cook we use) complain about something then you might narrow down where the problem lies. Were the steaks just not good? Was the cooking method not done properly? Was the sauce not good? Were they expecting well done and got medium? etc. It does help to a sense. However in our cook example its narrowed down to something. In this example a steak. Say the steak is the UI in bg3. Great! The devs can work with that! Say the Steak is the overall game though. In that case it doesent narrow it down at all and theyre back to square 1 to look for where the problem lies. Say that each person that complained about the Steak complained about something different beeing wrong ontop of that, and you are again back to square 1. Infacts its worse, they all say something is wrong but theyre all saying different things... Each time something went wrong with the steak but no 1 person complained about the same thing.
And thats what im trying to say here. I know alot of people wrote very detailed revieuws and/or feedback points. Thats great! After my 1st playthrough I wrote a lengthy post here myself! However theres also alot of people who arent doing that and thats what I was commenting on.
Your choice of phrasing here reads as though you are, quite genuinely, saying that Most of the time, critical feedback offered is vague and lacking in detail, without anything tangible to take on board or respond to... it reads further that you are saying that, while Most of the critical feedback is like that, Even When it's not, and people do elaborate further, Those accounts end up being based on falsehoods, or else have nothing to do with the game.
You don't allow, in your words, for the suggestion that there is actually a lot of good critical feedback provided; you use fully encompassing terms, with no room for anything else in your description. That is what you wrote, and it comes off as you saying, without any middle ground or alternative, that all negative feedback being offered here is either vague or unfounded, and that all of it is, thereby invalid. Those of us who have put a lot of work into providing detailed and focused feedback over the course of the EA might understandably feel the need to object to such a statement - you can't really say you weren't talking to us because, by your wording, whether you intended it that way or not, you ended up doing so.
This isn't an attack, and I've no ill-will here... it's just intended as an explanation for why myself or others seem to have read that as being your opinion, or why it came off that way by the end of the post.
Dont worry I dont see it as an attack
im not talking about everyone there. Infact at several points in my post I say im talking about a fringe group that does this. Not everyone. If I were talking about everyone id say everyone. If im talking about what a group of people are doing im also generalizing. Maybe not helpfull at the time but thats what I was doing. The group of people that I see doing it probably arent all the same ones every single time either.
Im talking about how people are providing, in my opinon non-constructive feedback; and how
I think that isent helpfull. Im not saying it isent helpfull. Just how I perceive it. But people telling me to kiss my own backside (for example, wont repeat the things people have said to me, lol) when I ask them to clarify what they mean isent beeing helpfull of them either. Were all on the forums to help improve the game right? Otherwise we wouldnt be here. People asking for clarification is something to be expected I feel. If your peers cant make sense of what you are saying theres a good chance that Larian cant either. But attacking others (not you, the people who I was commenting on) because youre asked to clarify is weird in the sense of what these message boards are about.
