As I said before, the original BG saga's fundamental design philosophy was to recreate DnD within the framework of a video game. BG3 has the same spirit. That makes it a Baldurs Gate game above all else for me.
There have been quite a few developers who tried to recreate Dungeons & Dragons in a video game, before and after Baldur's Gate. That doesn't make them Baldur's Gate games but Dungeons & Dragon games.
Also, regardless of what might have been meant to be done with Baldur's Gate originally (I can't find any source for your comment about BioWare being forced to create a Diablo clone, though I wouldn't doubt it much), the games that were made were liked for being as they were, not for what they might have been or were supposed to be. If the games had been turn-based, they might not have even been as well-known as they are now.
Originally Posted by spacehamster95
About the companions, sorry mate, but that just makes no sense. Because Wyll mentions a devil that must mean they copied the Red Prince's backstory? U are serious? They are nothing alike, Wyll and the Red Prince storywise. I don't even understand how can one make that claim. This is what I mean when I say that these "criticisms" are divorced from reality...
I'm just saying that they are going with similar elements. Wyll is a noble who is known for fighting, and he made a pact with a devil. The Red Prince is a prince who is known for fighting, and he summoned demons.
I start with the companion stuff. No, you were saying they copied the backstory. And Wyll was not a noble who is known for fighting who made a pact with a devil.
He was a spoiled painfully mediocre brat who made a pact with a devil to become someone. He is fundamentally a conman. The Red Prince is a progeny, who was destined for greatness in a sense and messed around with demons for fun.
Those surface level similarities that you highlight def do not mean that Larian simply copypasted the backstory. Just one example though. So your argument there is very arbitrary.
I didn't know about...
Wyll lying
...as I haven't gotten that far, but I never said that Larian simply copy-pasted the backstories. When I mentioned backstories, I even said "backstory elements", and if I hadn't, that should've still been obvious, considering that I had placed party member names on the list right before personalities.
Originally Posted by spacehamster95
If you want to know some basic info about the creation of the original saga, I can recommend the youtuber Chris Davis is making an excellent series analysing crpgs and he has an episode on all of the saga entries (he is really good, does excellent research).
I watched about seven minutes of the Baldur's Gate retrospective video, but I can't sit through an hour of someone talking about Baldur's Gate or anything else. Anyway, I didn't hear anything about Baldur's Gate being real-time with pause because of Interplay wanting BioWare to make a Diablo clone. Rather, what I heard was that BioWare was creating "Battleground Infinity", which was going to be like an MMO, but when Interplay acquired the license for Dungeons & Dragons, BioWare ended up making the game singleplayer, adding the AD&D 2e rules to the combat, setting the game in the Forgotten Realms and changing its name to "Baldur's Gate".
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