Originally Posted by Rhobar121
Originally Posted by Ormgaard
Martial classes boring? i disagree, its just that theres to much unbalanced ranged combat, every encounter i engane the melee oponents are the weak ones and i wait to take em out untill last, it seems to me that Larians weakest point is actually that they want too give to many options to the players and by doing that they wash out the difference in classes and builds the tactical choises and different builds gets watered out when everyone can do everything at any time. a few examples of things that are way to unbalanced and needs to be adressed are
Bonus actions in general
pushing/showing
familliars and pets since they are basicly free to cast or replace (especially flying ones)
throwing items as far as you can shoot an arrow
too many pots/scrolls/arrows that just makes any class a spellcaster.


if you adress theese issues melee characters can hopefullyl find their rightfull place again, im not saying to remove it but just balance it

How is this supposed to positively impact martial classes?
The only thing it will make is that they will be greatly weakened in relation to the magic classes

I'm not sure to understand everything... But about shove he's definitely right.

Shove to disengage : it's something the AI (try to) do A LOT since patch 5. If the ennemy can disengage as a bonus action, it's harder for martial classes to fill their role.
Shove to push : when you're pushed in a hole, your martial classes that is not build to attack at range has to run, and sometimes A LOT to re-engaged an ennemy. And you can bu pushed a lot with shove being a bonus action, even if you care.

Last edited by Maximuuus; 19/10/21 09:41 AM.

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