Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Wormerine
And I not terribly fond of that rating in BG game, or at least how it is utilized. I don't know how BG would be rated, but I played BG1&2 as a young teenager, and frankly it didn't scontain anything terribly unipropriate. IMO BG3 could very easily not be 18+ and be better for it.

One would hope that there is far more to BG3 then janky digital sex scenes, profanities and bloodsplatters.
There certainly is ...
Concepts of slavery, canibalism, torture, racism, fanatism, sadism and masochism, explicit showing of inner organs (especialy brains), some could argue that inserting tadpole is methaphor for rape (i heard such theory for Alien and honestly i dont see much difference here) and much, much more ...

Note that i dont argue any of those things could "horribly destroy fragile mind of inocent child" ...
Since i also came from generation of kids who were growing up watching all those "adults only" movies, series, videogames and stuff ... and i dont feel like any of that marked me worse than some other stuff, that no ESRB protects from. :-/

I simply can understand some people wish to be warned those things will be included. smile
And that is exactly what those ratings are for (at least that is how i see them) ... in the end, its allways parents who will decide if they will listen to this recommendation, or not ... and that makes sence, after all its also them who are responsible for those childern.

Originally Posted by GM4Him
OMG. Must every idea be debated and fought over?
In general?
Yes, that is why we are on forum and not on Blog without enabled coments. smile

Forum does not equal debate and fight. Forum means discussion. It can be pleasant. It can be fun. People can offer suggestions, and others can say, "Oh! I like that!"
Or, they can say, "Mmmm. Nah. I mean, if they want to do that, whatever, but I personally am not affected by it." Or, they can say, "Hmmm. No. Absolutely not. That would ruin the game and here's why." Those are respectful responses.

They don't have to say, "Your idea is dumb and I hate it and the game doesn't need that, so shut up and stop talking, and if you don't I'm going to keep attacking your ideas and suggestions until you finally get so sick and tired of it that you do just shut up. Oh, and let me give you all the reasons why your ideas suck and are stupid, and let me keep telling you why your ideas suck and are stupid because I pretty much just want to bash you into the ground until you either die or you quit making suggestions."

There's a huge difference. I don't mind the first. You have your opinion, and I have mine. You may not like my idea, and you may have reasons why. But you don't have to bash me and completely shoot my ideas down and belittle me in the process. Heck, I'd even understand you shooting something down, if my idea somehow ruins your gameplay. Then I can understand at least the defensiveness behind your position. But these unnecessary attacks every time someone posts anything someone doesn't like, that's what I'm frustrated with. Endless stupid debating and fighting over the tiniest of suggestions and feedback, no matter how small and insignificant. I post something thinking, "Hey. That's not a bad idea. Maybe I can at least ask for it. I might not get it, but it doesn't hurt to ask," turns into me defending myself and my life choices and my own beliefs and religion and all over something that doesn't hurt someone else at all. It's ridiculous!

Sometimes, I want to retaliate the way others treat me. You know, they call me sensitive or some dogmatic Christian who just wants to suppress and oppress, and I want to call them... no... you know what... no. I just won't tell you what I want to call them because that would not be Lawful Good of me. smile