Originally Posted by Niara
Okay, but maybe don't list jokes as part of your explanation when someone is trying to have a serious discussion with you about reasoning that they aren't understanding or that confuses them...

I would not put it past Larian to make him Elminster...

Anyway... I did just look up all of Gale's item refusal, final recourse, and extra tadpole probes... and to be honest, no... I still don't see why people are suspicious of him, even after seeing all of those.

He asks for your help, and when you don't give it, he warns about getting close to a point of no return... and after that, when it is past that point, he uses the only other solution available to him to prevent a catastrophe, and his own soul be damned - because, you know, if he'd just let the catastrophe happen, his soul would be intact and he'd go to his afterlife, and even be available for resurrection, most likely... his choice there is the good choice, born of desperation and lack of options.. so... I'm not seeing why it's suspicious or untrustworthy... why do you (or others) see it as being so?

He gets insistant if you don't give him things, yes... and I see nothing wrong with that at all, considering the consequence of what he's talking about.

When you probe him, and get caught, he gets offended by the breach of trust and violation of person that it represents, not what you actually saw. He is receptive to being reasoned with about the necessity of your actions, though it's clear he still doesn't like that you did it.

When you probe and don't get caught, you see the mistake that he made, and you see the oppressive, dark pressure that he constantly faces and feels - remember, the tadpole links are sensory and emotive transpositions, not onlooking impressions; when we feel something dark, sinister and oppressive bearing down on us, that's not Gale doing something or being something... that's us experiencing what it's like to be Gale, same as when you experience what it's like to be Astarion lurking through the streets.

I'm trying to understand, I truly am, I promise... but I'm just not seeing anything suspicious or untrustworthy of Gale in any of this... help me understand, please.

We are trying to help you understand why some of us have mixed feelings on Gale but unfortunately it seems you are very dismissive of everything we say. I even gave you the comparison to Solas, not sure if you played Dragon Age. Solas is very much like Gale, yet he was a traitor. He manipulated you the entire time, made you think he knew nothing when he was the brains behind everything. That reveal was the biggest shock to the fan base, even though a lot of us love Solas, but he is what he is. It seems that you just don't want to accept the possibility that Gale could be the biggest manipulator of the group. He could be good to you for 95% of the game and not reveal his true intentions to the very end, just like how Solas did in Dragon Age.