Originally Posted by mrfuji3
Many of your arguments about Gale being untrustworthy are speculation based off of FR lore and/or characters from entirely different franchises. I'd argue that it's impossible to disentangle your view of Gale from these sources because they affect your gut reaction to him and thus color your every interaction with him. (If the true reason why you distrust Gale is just a gut feeling because of your gut reaction to his smarminess, that's fine).

Even in the quoted paragraph responding to me, you use as evidence "There is the possibility that [Gale] knows more." Yes of course there's a possibility; Gale could be lying about the bomb, he could be lying about his knowledge of the tadpole via Netherese magic, he could be lying about everything about him. But this is purely speculation, and shouldn't be used as evidence for him being that way.

I don't understand the constant need for "evidence" for someone giving their opinion on their observation of a character. I have to admit that I'm starting to feel a little attacked here. I had a same situation with two other people. This is getting ridiculous. You and everyone else can have any opinion on a character but the farthest I'll go is ask why? For example, someone mention Shadowheart possibly being a Selune follower brainwashed to to think she follows Shar. Reason? She constantly expresses disgust every time she sees a Selune statue. I am fine with that reason. I don't understand why my reason or so unbelievable. It's actually unfair.

Originally Posted by mrfuji3
It's perfectly fine to speculate about characters. And it's perfectly fine to re-interpret their in-game actions and personalities based off of those theories. But if you want to have a discussion about anything, it's important to define the conversation and acknowledge your biases/sources. And using speculation (particularly referencing other franchises) in a conversation about how the character is presented in the source material won't ever be a productive discussion.

Again, there is nothing wrong with using other sources to make a point. The problem is you don't like what I have to say or my opinion for that matter. I gave my opinion and my reason for that based from the game itself. That wasn't good enough, so I looked for another source (Dragon Age, created by the original creators of Baldur's Gate) and even lore from the Forgotten Realms to make a point for my previous reason. That also wasn't good enough. So, what gives? If we are talking about a character that maybe you don't like and you give a basic reason, and I tell you "Oh no, you need to give me a some sensible evidence for your reason." That's asking a little too much. I should be fine with what you said.

I gave my main reason for making a speculation of Gale possibly being a deceiver. For some reason, that was unacceptable. I feel like I'm in court pleading my case. This is ridiculous.

(Sorry, if I'm coming off strong but I'm getting tired of this.)

Last edited by Lady Avyna; 04/11/21 04:26 PM.