Originally Posted by Niara
For my part, I do not believe I have ever seen anyone, on this forum or otherwise, ever, trying to suggest that the game should be, or that they want it to be, exact 5e raw.

It's partial due to perspective and perception, in my opinion / understanding. Just to be absolutely clear, I actually do not view the following quotes to be demanding exact 5e RAW, and in fact the threads are overall in the same ballpark of "prefer to see changes closer towards 5e in a reasonably faithful way", but I believe it's clear how they can be perceived to demand as such. And due to the bombastic, emotional and slightly hyperbolic nature of how the message is framed, you can see how those threads begin as wholesome, reasonable and calm, and slowly degrade and turn into more hyperbolic and over-dramatic arguing as the pages move on.

I think some people subconsciously still have those threads in mind, stuck as a feeling. Then future perception is influenced by that under a bias, regardless of where our individual opinions recide.

Originally Posted by CrestOfArtorias | Source
Well if its not going to be 5e I might as well refund right now, because thats what they communicated what this was going to be and thats what I expected.

Originally Posted by CamKitty | Source
Originally Posted by fixxer
This game isn't DND, and doesn't have to follow the ruleset and it's their choice. Larian have creative freedom, and after playing DOS2 quite a lot i think they know what they are doing and have faith. Trust the method behind the madness, but understand no matter which way they go, not everyone will be happy and if you come to the game expecting a 1:1 DND clone you've already set yourself up for disappointment.

No, don't make a Baldur's gate game if you are not foloowing DnD rules. Otherwise, just make DoS 3.

+1 for the topic

Originally Posted by Beenker | Source
Agree, this game is basically reskinned DOS. I won't recommend this game to anyone in its current state. There are just so many things wrong

I'm also curious, what exact thing did Wizards of the Coast even do at this point? Lore? They definitely didnt ensure that Larian stuck to the 5e ruleset.

Edit: I point these out, because I believe a similar tribalistic nature is taking foothold in this thread as well. We can keep this civil and grounded, I think. I ask you to, because ultimately I dare wage that we all just want the game to feel as much D&D as it reasonably can, whilst realizing there's a compromise somewhere in the middle. The disagreements tend to boil down to semantics and nuances of how much is enough, and I don't think this "No you are the baddie, no you are strawmanning me, I'm not the one strawmanning you" shenanigans bears any positive points to continue. Stick to the merits of the criticism and feedback, than trying to upper got'cha one another.

Edit 2: I refer mostly to Dexai, Lady Avyna and <Redacted> in the moderation-aspect of this post. It doesn't matter which one of you are more right than the other. In terms of OP and thread topic, you're all wrong.

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