Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
Says me. laugh

It is a logical conclusion since our chars are aware of the tadpoles and also aware that the other true souls are controlled, which they do not want. It is the main plot so giving in should be the said game over option. In that we agree laugh
Using the tadpoles brings us closer to the absolute winning imo so we can go that way to a certain degree, any more would break the story i think. Not that tweaks to that are not possible, but maybe a but too much for a way that is not intended storywise.
Exactly ... OTHERS are controlled. :P Not us. smile
That is the thing, being closer to the Absolute dont necesarily means being controled by her, nor even bow to her. wink

I mean i can totally imagine some evil character wanting to "seems like" he wish to serve some powerfull deity, only to twist things in the end, betray her and become far more powerfull than anyone expected ... smile
I could even imagine he would possesse some incredibly strong magical artefact that this deity would desperately want, but it would also protect him from that deity, so she would be unable to take it from him by force ... smile
His name could be for example Raistlin Majere (have you read "Dragons of the Hourglass Mage"?). laugh

Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
Regarding that i had another messed up conversation last night:

Astarion and the tadpole, If you talk to him about the tadpole he clearly states that he does not want to be controlled by either cazador or the grey things, which makes me think that his acceptance of the tadpole powers must have limits.
Yet everytime you agree with the others that you should stop using the powers, you get his disaproval even after it is clear that its a Mindflayer trap. At least so far as i tried.
What is messed up about it?
He want the power, but dont want consequences (as he multiple times tells us during gameplay) ... wich evil character dont fit such description? laugh


Well, i agree to a point. I guess it is a tightrope how far you can go exactly. I guess there are characters who think they can win against the absolutes control, or be able to outsmart her. Lots of stories in that regard. I must give that to you. But either Larian actually creates that way or there has to be a point of no return that
takes you to the game over. I actually would love to see the way where you use the tadpole and become the absolute in the end. But from act 1 alone i have no real idea how this is going to continue.

Also on astarion you are ofc right. But the wording of that conversation is not too good then. I will try to reproduce but i think i talked to astarion that we should stop using the tadpoles. Then i talked to another char about the exact same thing and get dissaproval from astarion. that annoyed me.
A lot of conversations do not really impact another. I have had that a lot already.

It always feels like the connection between the PC and one OriginChar. Not between all. Like when all 4 stand before an NPC and you talk but it feels really like you are alone.


Edit: Dragonlance chronicles was the first D&D Book i read. I also read the story of caramon and raistlin but that was so long ago. time to refresh it seems. Just re-read huma and kaz so that would fit)

Last edited by UnknownEvil; 22/11/21 07:04 PM.