Originally Posted by mrfuji3
+1 For all those people who love shoving enemies, at level 5 currently your fighter/paladin/barbarian/ranger will still only be able to shove once per turn. However, if shove is modified to match RAW (replace an attack with a shove) then you'll be able to shove twice per turn!

If your fighter Action Surges, then they could shove 4x in a single turn at level 5!
If you get hasted, then you'll get another shove attempt! (Possibly 2 more depending on how Larian implements the interaction between Haste and Extra Attack)
At level 11, your fighter could shove 3x per turn, 6x if action surged, 7-9x if Hasted!

None of the above happens with a bonus action shove. It will always be only once per turn, except for I suppose rogues maybe with their additional BA...?
12 attacks or shoves for a haste surprise attack by an 11th level Fighter before the enemy gets to do anything will do a great job at highlighting the strengths of turn based combat.

/sarcasm

But seriously, how is that not going to be a huge problem? You can shove someone across the map if you don't just feel like killing them with a Greatsword.

Last edited by 1varangian; 25/11/21 08:09 PM.