Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by gabrielled
Just checked on Kagha, as of the latest patch she's still a Level 4 Archdruid.
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Ok, i stand corected ...
But is that really so huge problem? O_o

Plenty of discussion here has made it clear that this requires some explanation.


Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by gabrielled
Astarion is a vampire spawn, which makes him significantly stronger and faster than your average adventurer. As an NPC vampire spawns start off with 82HP, has speed of 30ft, has natural AC of 15, and has damage resistance from bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing. He's on par with the bulette, hill giants, night hags, and elementals.
I dont really know what to say about this ...
NPC having different rules than players is kinda common stuff, so ... w/e i gues. laugh

NPCs under different rules? Sure. NPC as a standard being significantly stronger when even the PC says that the superior strength and speed are derived from the particular racial/status characteristic? No. That's like having all NPC elves to be able to use level 3 magic innately while your elf can't.

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by gabrielled
Shadowheart is the only one who is a big question mark, partly because of
an almost-confirmed theory that Shadowheart isn't actually a Sharran cleric
. Not sure how the levels translate, especially considering Shar's clergy and their philosophy. She very well may have been an initiate, the lowest in the hierarchy.
Since levels are just matematical expression of amount of combat/adventuring experience ...
I would dare to say that complete memory loss should be concidered equivalence of reseting to level 1.

She clearly didn't lose all her memories, as she can read and write, and has the pantheons down.

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by GM4Him
Halsin is an accomplished healer. You can't be considered an accomplished healer at like level 5. He's a First Druid. You can't be a First Druid at level 5, and if you are, that's one lame Grove.

How can you even remotely think he's appropriately leveled? He can't even cast Greater Restoration or Mass Cure Wounds or even flipping Conjure Animals.

No. I will say. He is WAY too under leveled.
You are so focused on some "level number" that you lost any connection to that world. frown

No, this is a good point. Healers by definition should be able to cast a certain set of healing spells.

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by GM4Him
That said, I'm hoping this is just because it's EA and once they lift the level cap he'll be more like Level 10 at least. I'm also hoping Ragzlin will be more appropriately leveled as a Hobgoblin Warlord and Minthara and Kagha too. I think once they remove the cap, they can do appropriate levels for enemies, increase XP, and by the time you head into the Underdark you'll likely be about level 6.
I for the other hand hope they will keep this as it is now ...
I created my own Tav to play her adventure ... not to watch in some dark corner as "aproprietly leveled NPC" are fighting together, hoping that no AoE spelldamage gets too close to me, since i would be dead in blink of an eye. -_-

That's how most of RPGs work. If you are involved in a big fight as a paltry level 1, you duck your head and hope that you won't get murdered. Case in point: Gorion's Ward.

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by gabrielled
If they explained WHY we can't do the headbash method, then it would make sense. As of now the game universe is acting as if there's no such method, with Omeleum, Lae'zel, AND Gale about. Three people who know way more about ceremorphosis than an average mage in Waterdeep, one's an illithid himself, and no one says "hey what about this method?". The party's willing to talk to and drink weird concoctions from a goblin priestess so they're pretty desperate, but no one bothers to even ask about the method that seems pretty straightforward.
Cant you hear youreself?
Its not "method" its smashing your f*****g head with a f*****g hammer! :-/

Cant you just logicaly see how stupid it is? laugh

Nettie: I have to poison you, but fear not it would be painless.
Tav: You crazy?! Never!!!

Halsin: I smash your head with this HUGE rock and then we try to put it back together somehow.
Tav: Hells yeah! FInaly good solution.

I think it's because you aren't exactly well-versed in Realmslore that you find this idea crazy, but there are precedents that make it clear that Faerunians have very different views from us about pain and mortality. When Kelemvor ascended to godhood, he reformed the Fugue Plane and the City of the Dead to clearly reflect alignments and reward afterlife accordingly (which he soon discovered was a dumb idea). People, especially good-aligned, were throwing their lives away left and right, because they knew they were going to this awesome place filled with happiness and joy. Tormites willingly committed suicide during the battle in Tantras to fuel Torm's power. Ilmatari clerics regularly sacrificed themselves in various ways to aid the needy and the poor (and especially to protect people from Banites and on occasion, Loviatans). The martyred champions of Ilmater were those who sacrificed themselves and came back to life by various means, so it shouldn't be a novel concept for the party to know that resurrection and restoration are available as options. It would be crazier to accept a potion from a goblin than to go to a Silvanian druid who offers to reincarnate or resurrect the character, especially with the rather limited time window that they're given. It's better than one of the options they're given, which is die by Lae'zel's hand with no decent divine magic user in sight.