Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
As far as i know you can only kill one of your companions permanently and even then i did not see the tadpole emerge. Drive a stake through Astarion in the camp and look.
I did ... several times actualy. laugh
That conversation is clearly "under construction" right now, after all we dont even have any cinematic there, just text. :-/
Who knows what will happen later? :P

On the other hand tho ...
Chubblot managed to datamine conversation between Lae'zel and Shadowheart, where one of them have to die (unless you win Dif 30 charisma roll) ...
And yes, there indeed was squishing tadpole scene included. :P

Forum cant do spoiler inside of spoiler so ... here it is: Time 16:00

Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
But it seems quite a few people see it as a problem as the story becomes redunant after recognizing this hole. what we know about the Plot so far is, that it is centered around this little wriggler. Having such an obvious and more or less easy way to get rid of it despite all the problems even hags and other Illithids have, sucks a bit.
Problem with this so called solution is that it would only switch single problem in story logic for another ...

"Elder, powerfull and in tadpole removal services experienced Hag ... have no way to actualy help you."
"Known and respected healer, first druid Halsin ... have no way to actualy help you."
"Well known and mostly not so respected, but experienced (or at least he claim he is) Volo ... have no way to actualy help you."
"Acording to Lae'zel your only way to actualy get healed is her people ..."

And then Lae'zel come with her huge hammer, she will do *SMASH* ... Shadowheard do *cast* afterwards ... and voila!
You are alive, well, and your brainmass was just reduced of one tadpole. laugh

Please dont say that this seems better. -_-

Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
I agree that violently letting people you hardly know bash in your head to get resurrected is out of the question. Even in a setting like this, people are afraid of dying. Resurrections can fail. So there is no insurance that you come back.
Exactly smile

Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
That brings me back to the point where the PCs simply should not die.

Let them stay incapacitated after the third failed save without the option to help them back up (too weak due to blood loss to get back into the fight or somesuch).
This sadly came to quite strong colision with curent rules ...
How would you explain difference between stabilized and unstabilized party member ... slightly and hardly incapacitated? laugh

I mean, it sounds to me like something that everyone can use in their heads ... and that should be enough. :-/

Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
When all are down we can get a nice little video sequence where we get dragged to moonrise and get brainwashed -> Game over.
This is pure nonsence ...
You can die fighting the Hag / Gnolls / Zhentarims / Flaming Fist / Githyanki / Tieflings / Druids / Wood Woads / a Toad laugh / Owlbear / and many many more. :-/

None of them will drag you to moonrise ... and to create specific "game over" cinematic for each option would be expencive, especialy since most people when their game finished dont want to watch any video, they want to reload and play again asap. :-/

Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
Gales storyline also starts with the 3rd failed save and all should work. He is near death after all. Exchange the True Resurrection to another scroll that can help. This condition is so special that it should be possible to think up something else.

Here is an idea: Let gale turn to stone after the 3rd failed save and start with his necro aura. Then the scroll the mephit hides just need to be a Stone to Flesh to get him back. Problem solved.
Except if he would be "just incapacitated" ... any heal should have work on him ...
NO matter how you will explain it, it allways fail ... heavy damage, internal bleeding, organs damage, extreme exhaustion? That all is threated by healing magic. :-/


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown