Originally Posted by Niara
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
people keep saying this around here but are unable to support such claim with any link or other proof ...
On the other hand there is MANY sourced materials where Swen say exact oposite. :-/

Turnabout is fair, Rag: Where are your sources and citations. Prove those "Many" examples you've repeatedly alluded to, please.

Yes, the original statement was that they would be making the game using the 5e system as faithfully as possible. The sentence that followed that was, indeed, a version of "but there are some things that don't translate well, so we'll be making tweaks", which is a non-statement when discussing a PnP to Video Game conversion, because not one single person ever expected that it would be 100% rules faithful, or ever wanted it to be. No-one has ever adopted that stance, Rag. No-one. Of course there will be translation tweaks! That's a GIVEN! Everyone KNOWS that's a given... so people took the actually meaningful part of that statement which was the "we're doing 5e as faithfully as possible" part, and got interested, because even other games that are far, far more authentically faithful to their D&D source never made a statement that strong... so folks were hopeful and intrigued.

Here's some more:

Quote
As only the second game (after Sword Coast Legends) to employ the 5th Edition ruleset, Baldur's Gate 3 has the opportunity to open up a new era of Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying games.

"We started by taking the ruleset that's in the Player's Handbook," Larian Studios CEO Swen Vincke told Ars Technica. "We ported it as faithfully as we could."

[one paragraph down, the quote continues]

"Whatever is not in the book [a player character] will say, 'Well, I'll do this,' and the Dungeon Master says 'Sure!' And then he'll think about what type of check he's going to make you do, and then that's going to be what you're going to roll with, and the entire party will work with that," Vincke said. "In a video game, you don't have that, so in a video game you have to make systems that allow you to do this. And so, coming up with those systems has been a lot of fun, and making them link to ruleset as it is has been the interesting bit about that."

A different interview:

Quote
"We’re still experimenting, but a lot of rules translated really well," says Vincke. "We had to make a few tweaks and modifications to make them work with a video game, but things like having an action, movement and bonus action in a combat phase worked well.

"Of course there are the finer details, like how specific spells and actions work, and we hit a few limitations with the D&D ruleset where we had to make tweaks."

The strong tone of this is that it's being done majority faithful, with just a few necessary tweaks for small minutia-grade things that needed to be adapted due to the medium change. It's a misleading comment.

Another:

Quote
It has been more than a decade ever since the last near 1:1 Dungeons and Dragons game has been released (Neverwinter Nights 2). That very well means it's about time we get a new and faithful Dungeons and Dragons game given the popularity of Fifth Edition (5e). Thankfully, Larian Studios has heard the collection lamentations of Baldur's Gate fans and is now hard at work in Baldur's Gate 3.

Like its predecessors, Baldur's Gate 3 is a video game adaptation of Dungeons and Dragons complete with the ruleset and the systems mostly intact. Now, which particular tabletop rules will Larian port over to the game? It appears they're targeting all of them,

Again, strong implication of a reasonably faithful implementation.

Another:

Quote
CRPG and Dungeons & Dragons fans, rejoice! The game you have probably spent many days and nights longing for is coming. Baldur’s Gate 3 will be a faithful adaptation of the tabletop’s fifth edition rules, set at the current moment in its story, according to Swen Vincke, founder and head of the game’s developer, Larian Studios.


There would not be so many news articles using the phrasing if it wasn't something that many, many people latched onto when it was first spoken.

As I recall you were also watching the thread when Sadurian linked the specific original interview from which the quote was taken... so casting suspicion on its authenticity now ill-becomes you and is deeply dishonest of you.

So I'm with Rag here, who wrote that article? When Sven talks about what Larian's doing, it's "We", not in the third person. So, someone made some assumptions, published an article to get some clicks, and all of a sudden it's "But Larian said". In short, the last two quotes are meaningless, because despite the premise of the post, they're not quoting Larian, they're making assumptions based on what they want, much as you did, when you cited them as "proof" of Larian promising something they didn't.

What this tells me is that a lot of people are basing what they expected this game to be off of misleading information from a game journalist, and some of them are now finding fault with any and everything Larian does based on that. I provided a map of Faerun to demonstrate just how far off base GM was in their thread about a "missing village". Based on that thread, 99.99% of Faerun is problematic, because we can't travel there, because apparently the SE corner of the map is the limit of the world, instead of the limit of that area.