@Niara, Role playing as a Shadow Druid - I can see his point. "You can't even trigger mass Tiefling animosity to support the Shadow Druids by"... pretty much sums it up. The shadow druids rightly turn on you EVEN when you expose them; however, there needs to be a trigger that allows them to see you can be a "trusted" member. Exposing the shadow druids (no matter your inclinations) goes against their code.
There should be an option to force or persuade the Tiefs to leave the grove (Instead of genocide. Even Kahga doesn't really want to go that far unless forced to, she tries to get you to convince them to leave and I a sure she would have talked to them until she was red in the face.) - allow Kagha to lock the grove up (no longer able to access it) and IF you know about the shadow druid plot (but dont say anything) they will come to you later and allow you membership (ie one of them saw you read the note in the swamp...). Mind you as per the shadow druid code - if you decline they attack, you know to much. Great option to wipe them out quest or they will from time to time send alligned assassins.
Shadow Druids believe that nature should drive out civilization with violence if needed (granted this is a simple summary). Nature is a creative force that when balanced, improves upon itself over time. It is impossible to balance the needs of nature and the needs of civilization as civilization is a destructive force that must consume relentlessly to maintain itself. The Tiefs represent this stain of civilization, they eat more than they bring in, their waste pollute, their garbage piles up, nature has to make way to sustain them. A shadow druid does not see the need to baby sit a bunch of folks by feeding them a bunch of Goodberries all day and cleaning up their fecal mess. If they cant adapt and survive as a part of nature then they will die - that is their idea of balance. The point that there are limited supplies is due to the havok being cause by the Absolute goons and the need to lock up and preserve the grove until the threat has passed. Cant gather goods with goblin patrols and a bunch of Tiefs eating it all.
The general arguments you make above would be the point of a non-shadow druid. Shadow druids are (as someone said) eco-terrorist. So yeah I agree with both post =) especially about the children.
As the great sage Dak'kon once said, "Balance in all things".
Last edited by avahZ Darkwood; 04/01/22 01:31 AM.
