Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
That 12 was for Ability Score. laugh
I was using same format as you did in quoted part. wink

In my mind it was:

Ability 12 = +1 Modifier ...
Expretise = Prof 2 * 2 = 4 ...
Therefore Ability 12 should be enough for character to preform task of Dif. 5 on level 1. laugh
Oh. That's what your meant with 12+! That's just not the proper way to write it, but ok. Well, a rogue with expertise would be fine against 5DC even with 10 point in corresponding ability. Because you can't roll less than 1 and you add your skill and ability modifier to it, so 1+4...