Originally Posted by jfutral
Originally Posted by TheHero
Originally Posted by jfutral
Yeah. I'm pretty done with shove. It was an interesting twist at first. Now it is just annoying as hell. It seems all the enemies tactics focus on this. And it seem the enemy's THACO for shove is an entirely different table. (Apologies for the old timer's reference, there.)

Either you have high STR Athletic skill, Acrobatic skills in DEX or just mind which character is standing where.
Theres allways a way to protect yourself from beeing shoved too often.

You would think that, wouldn't you? Yet here we are.

Joe

Agreed. There is NOT always a way to protect yourself.

60 feet from edge. Enemy shoves 30 feet. Second enemy shoves another 30 feet. Character is in lava all before they get to go once.

Oh, and because it's a Bonus, both duergar get to still turn and hack at other characters that same turn. So, kill one character and hack at 2 more.