I had a thought while going about my business today. There is already a decently active mod community for this game.
Just look here. Maybe
the people we need to be talking to about Shove and Throw are the independent mod programmers. Let's see if one of them will make some quality tweaks to Shove and Throw. At least then there is a way to make Larian's game closer to the game it actually should be. I mean, it doesn't seem like Larian is listening. I'm guessing there are some independent coders out there who could whip up a mod to make Shove actually work like it's supposed to, and change Throw so that it is more in keeping with the balance of 5e?
I HATE mods.
Played party of 6 mod. Crashed game A LOT. Several times, computer crashed as well and I couldn't get the game to load for awhile.
We shouldn't have to rely on mods for mechanics that are intelligent for balanced gameplay just so we don't have enemies yeeting our toughest characters off cliffs or into lava,
Oh, I 100% agree with you. I hate mods too, and if I don't ever have to try and integrate any I won't. I also agree with
"We shouldn't have to mod a 5e game to play like 5e. The reverse should be true. If you want the slapstick comedy combat, that should require a mod."
I don't think we
should have to, but sadly I think we probably
will have to. It's entirely obvious that Larian has no interest in: 1)Communicating/listening to their community of players, or 2) making a game that is faithful the 5e ruleset. At this point in the process, since they seem to be going further and further away from 5e, I'm guessing that those of us who want a faithful game are probably going to have to end up modding it in order for it to be the game we wanted in the first place. Very sad, but probably true.
I mean, would it be too much to ask to just have the current version of Shove and Throw made into a setting adjustment in Gameplay settings? If the devs at Larian are so fired up about wonky game engine physics and how they can break them, that's great, but at least give your faithful to 5e audience the ability to turn that stuff off and play a game that is fully faithful to the ruleset.
