Players using shove in game doesn't mean they "have a blast" shoving or, if they do, that they agree that the current implementation is better than others.
Doing mental backflips here trying to insist that all those people who use and enjoy shove secretly agree with the anti-shove crowd.
I'm not making any claim to what these people think. I don't argue that they're "having a blast" and I don't argue that they "secretly agree with the anti-shove crowd." They might do either, but
we don't know. All we know about player opinions is what they directly post in forums/reddit/etc. Please stop misrepresenting my argument, and please stop claiming that you somehow know what thousands of players are thinking.
It's one thing to say, "Hey, I don't like shove because it's not realistic." To which I can respond, "I get it, but that's not something that bothers me. I appreciate the way it's a bit larger than life."
This is a perfectly fine response to that argument! Theoretically Larian will see each poster who argues for/against a mechanic, and weigh the #of posts and their arguments when making decisions. But it's not okay to say your opinion is the silent-majority-held opinion without proper evidence. And high use of a mechanic (not that you actually even know how often players use shove) does not equal evidence of enjoyment. Neither does general enjoyment of a game ("BEST GAME EVER!!!") equate a like of all of its mechanics.
