I have over 200 hours gameplay of BG3 and how could shove possibly be the problem that is reported here+ I have never seen anything close to it. Sure AI uses it a few times but it's really really not that much. Just use better positioning if you want to avoid getting pushed into lava, really. It adds a new tactical layer whcih is just good, and the AI definitely doesn't spam it like you make it seem, or I'm playing a whole different game.
If I am standing 30 feet or more from an edge, and I get shoved off the edge with one shove, and that shove throws me into lava for a 1-Hit KO, that's broken. And, again, this was with Lae'zel, the one who should be able to resist Shove the most.
I've had members shoved off ledges in the Underdark by Drow Mages, 30 feet or so to the edge and then another whopping who knows how much all the way to the bottom near the Torchstalks area from the Spectator Zone.
I am literally doing a playthrough with just Shove and Throw, and I shoved the Bugbear about to attack Nadira, the pink-haired Tiefling, from where you meet Nadira all the way down to where Orm the bear is fishing on the beach, some 60+ feet of distance, killing him, naturally.
And, interestingly, I just got done with several attempts to Shove/Throw against Harpies. I will say, this battle, solo, is not really possible. Well, actually, I almost succeeded in it because of glitchy Luring Song where once the harpies start singing they just sit there and do nothing else. I was able to shove around only one harpy at a time because the other three were singing.
That said, IF my Barbarian was slightly stronger, like Lae'zel strong, I could probably lift the harpies and throw them around, so even this battle, I believe, is possible to win just by throwing people and enemies.
On another note, and I will post this in the appropriate thread as well, I am now all for Camp Kill Tiefling Children. Why? Because I am able to use Mirkon, the boy tiefling down by the river with the harpies, as an Invincible throwing projectile. I throw him, he dies. He is immediately resurrected. I throw him again. He dies. He is immediately resurrected, free of charge. In fact, the harpies killed him and I resurrected him by throwing him at a harpy, dealing damage to him, and bringing him back to life while damaging the harpy.
Resurrection by throwing! Now that's a new one.
Anyway, if I can do fairly well with one character against four harpies just by throwing and shoving, that's, again, broken. Imagine if I just had a party of 4 running around shoving and throwing the whole game. Nothing would stand in our way.
BG3's new Title: Throw/Shovefest 2023!!!
I think I'm done with the shove/throw run. It's seriously getting tedious and boring, and I think the point is made already. Over and over again, I can literally just shove/throw my way through the game and need nothing else.
