I agree that shove should be a standard action but I'm not seeing examples of the distance being wildly exaggerated. In that fight with Nere, I repeatedly shoved those duerger five feet. If they had gone further, the battle would have ended even faster. You can fire up the game and get somebody to shove you or shove somebody else in five minutes. It's these wild exceptions that are hard to replicate. (I feel like I am more often frustrated that I can't quite get people to go over a cliff, and it feels very rewarding when I can make it happen, and this tactic is even more rewarding when shove is a standard action because you know you MADE it happen rather than just got it as a bonus.)

Last edited by lofgren; 22/02/22 04:01 PM.