It’s really interesting to see these different takes on the Daisy scenes, and I can’t resist one further response though I’m following Niara’s example and putting behind spoiler tags as it is tangential.


I agree the scenes are creepy, and also assumed they were meant to be. Personally that’s what I like most about them, though recognise mileage will vary. In fact, I also like the fact that the companions react very differently to their dreams, reflecting just that.

I don’t think the scenes are necessarily rape-y, though can see there’s a case to be made and there are certainly ways the interactions can go that very much lead in that direction. For that reason, it’s vital that we are able to roleplay what we see as an appropriate response to the dreams, and while most characters I’d personally play would probably go along with the seduction to a point out of curiosity to find out more and a (probably doomed) hope to be able to turn the tables, I agree there should also be a path that lets us effectively push back and avoid the “seduction” altogether.

And while in principle I can see how resisting Daisy might be related to strength of mind or other traits, in practice I am very uneasy about putting certain responses/ability to push back behind dice rolls as happened in at least one scene in an earlier patch at least. Given the sexual nature of the scenes, being able to fail a saving throw against what I agree could be a kind of rape seems deeply problematic and I can imagine might be very upsetting for some players.

From what Niara says about previous patches, I think Larian may have made some steps towards being able to opt out of the “seduction”, as in my latest playthrough the “too much in my head already” option did seem to shut things down pretty effectively. It was buggy, though, as my companions still talked as if I would know about the seduction even though I didn’t experience it and the dialog options were a bit odd. For example, when Gale asked me what I did, I think I only had options to 1 Lie and say I gave in, 2 Lie and say I relented, 3 Lie and say I did nothing, or 4 Ask him what he did, so it felt there was a missing part of the dialog tree for the option I really picked.

I do still hope that Larian implement an option to have the Daisy conversations without the sexual element so that players (and/or player characters) who would find that too disturbing can still experience this thread of the game. There are plenty of other ways of being ominous and creepy.



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