Originally Posted by GM4Him
So, my point was that this statement is false. "Just to be fair ... this idea was born here on forum ... People wanted this ... people get it ..." This implies that we actually wanted and asked for what they gave us.
Daffy Duck would call this pronoun trouble. smile

First of all, you should be clear about what is "this" before you start talking about "it". wink
And if i would not be so lazy ... i could find you the post that quite litteraly asked for "using the spellslot indicators as interactive buttons to decide wich spell-slot-level we wish to use for that particular cast we are going to use" ...

Wich is, to say it in your own words something we "actually wanted and asked for" and also "what they gave us". wink

So no, my statement is not false ... wink
You were just conecting wrong dots.

Originally Posted by GM4Him
They try to order a pizza that they feel will make as many people happy as possible.
Yup ... that is much closer to what is actualy happening than the previous, completely off example. laugh

Originally Posted by GM4Him
Problem is, the end result is likely not going to make anyone happy.
Likely? That is certain my dear friend. laugh

One old quote say:
"Democracy only works if neither stakeholder is satisfied with the outcome."
And that is something that certainly aply here aswell. wink

Originally Posted by GM4Him
Everyone seems to say the same thing, "It's better, but it certainly isn't great yet."
Yup ... that is one of reasons i believe Swen litteraly (and multiple times) warned us that this is just first build, that they are still working on it, and that it will change futher. smile

The point of testing this UI isnt to decide if it is allready perfect, based on Swens expression i would dare to say that nobody in Larian expected such outcome ...
But to tell them if this is movement in right direction, and concidering reaction you paraphrased ... it seems like most people agree on that it certainly is! wink

Originally Posted by GM4Him
See, the problem with Larian's approach IS that they are trying to make everyone happy.
I dont think that is problem ...
And concidering how their UI looked in previous builds, i dare to say neither should you ... since the game is getting adjusted to come closer to your demands, not mine ... we were allready there. laugh

Originally Posted by GM4Him
They're trying to order pizza for everyone by taking what everyone wants and trying to throw it into one pizza. "You wanted pepperoni, he wanted sausage, and she wanted just cheese, but he wanted veggie lovers, and she wanted all the meats while he wanted bacon cheeseburger and she wanted Mediterranean. So let's all have one big pizza with all those toppings thrown together."
You know ... this could theoreticaly be good example ...
Sadly it isnt, its closer than your McDonald ... but even tho i sometimes wonder why you keep insist on using food examples ... they will never be acurate, since this "pizza" if you demand to call the game UI that way, offers something that food usualy dont do ... and its that you can take slice, and in the moment you do, all ingredients that are on it, become optional. laugh

So yes, you ordered pepperoni for one, salami for another, veggie for third one, and cheeze for last one ...
And none of them wants what the other one have.

But the charm of the UI is that it CAN (and im not even counting mods) be done that way that the person who wants pepperoni will simply take and use just those parts of UI that are pepperoni ... same goes with everyone else.
And the pizza in the end will ... to put it simply look like this:
[Linked Image from tipbuzz.com]

Originally Posted by GM4Him
I think the UI is better, but it is a long way off from what "People wanted this." A long way off.
You are simply generalizing too much ...
"This" never meaned "all and everything that is in this game". laugh


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown