Originally Posted by Niara
The same quote that is always quoted on this topic, Rag.
That didnt help me at all ...

I dont claim that i have seen them all, but i have seen MANY interviews with Swen, and quite honestly i dont remember him even once say: "5e doesn't work in a video game format" ...
Usualy when this topic shoved up, he said "There are things from Tabletop that dont translate well in video game" ...

Yes, i know the only difference is the word "well".

But please, let me point you to one woman, who ... in her own a little harsh, but honest and certainly illustrative way ...tryed to help me understand that if you want to understand sentence properly, you must take it whole: https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=804590#Post804590 smile
Maybe you have heared about her. wink

And since that woman was right back then ... i would really love to see source of that sentence.

Originally Posted by Niara
I believe that my interpretation is the most accurately descriptive of what they intended to say and what they hoped to advertise to people at the time
We all usualy do. smile

Originally Posted by Niara
That your explanations of what they are supposedly intended to mean is an acrobatic act of bending over backwards to tie up what was said with the currently delivered reality in order to justify them - a manoeuvre that should not ever be necessary if active misrepresentation has not taken place.
If that would be the case, it should not be too hard to simply show that misrepresentation ... would it?

I mean, if you look at my quote of Composer, who quoted Swen (with sources, so you can check they are not made up) ... there is explicitly said in every single one that those changes, will be there. :-/
If i would see at least single interview, or advertising from Larian claiming otherwise, i would understand why are you mad ... but they litteraly said, that there WILL be changes, that there WILL be deviations, that this game WILL be different ...

Sure you people have seen/heared it ... you just "presumed" it would "not be so different as it is" ... how is that mispresentation? That was you interpreting his words, not him saying them. :-/

Originally Posted by Niara
There is no 'out of context' here
If quoting only part of the whole sentence isnt "out of context" ... i dont relly know what is. :-/


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown