Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Fast Travel Limitation Poll

Actually yeah, all the above bother me, except the last one (I choose the dialogue option that suits my character, not the more convenient one).
But I also understand that sometimes those features are necessary given the *nature* of the game. It is inconceivable to restart the game if your party gets wiped out in a fight or stuck in a wall due to a bug.
I’m against save-scumming but save-reload is a necessary feature in almost any videogame (except maybe a rogue-like).

A feature like instant fast travel anywhere from anywhere, that doesn’t make any sense lore-wise it’s *not* a necessary feature in an RPG, all the opposite in fact, it’s detrimental since it’s taking away a core part of the RPG experience.

Because you can say “I have no interest on travel again in an area I’ve already explored, so I prefer to instant teleport away” and it makes sense, but only partially, because I can just say “I don’t want to fight enemies, I’m just here to explore and loot chests, so please Larian, place a button to instantly kill all the enemies and people that don’t like this feature well, just don’t use it”.

If we are intellectually honest we must admit such a feature would be foolish, and to ask people to just “ignore it” is ludicrous.

If BG3 is an RPG then it must provide some key experiences. Just to list some of them:
- Immersion;
- Narrative;
- Travel and Exploration;
- Resource Management;
- Combat.

If the game implements a feature that is taking away from those key experiences then it’s a bad feature, no matter if it’s ignorable or not.

And this feature takes away from a lot of those experiences:
- Immersion -> because it breaks the suspension of disbelief.
- Narrative -> for the same reason, since doesn’t make sense with the IG lore.
- Travel and Exploration-> it facilitates the player to miss out on content since incentivizes him/her to skip areas for the sake of time.
- Resource Management -> It trivializes the challenge of having to plan your decisions because it takes away a big chunk of the consequence. I just enraged a whole camp of goblins? Oh well, *pops away*.

I totally agree with you that it’s good to have the option to use unrestricted fast travel for all those players that don't care about the above points and just want to fight -> loot -> sell -> fight again, but it should be, as I said, an option, not a CORE mechanic.
The CORE mechanic must enhance all the experiences I have listed, just not to the point it makes the game too unnecessary and convoluted of course.
This is why the “portal” thing is a good decision. It makes sense lore-wise and helps to travel the map more easily. It just needs a little bit of limitation to stay coherent and for all of what I said above.


Please, don't deliberately ignore core parts of my posts.
I’ll repeat them with other words.
I’m not demanding the game to be changed to screw *your* experience, *nor* because I feel entitled to have the game tailored around my needs. My money has the same value as yours, it’s not a *my enjoyment* vs *your enjoyment* situation.

The thing is “I paid for a FRs RPG, because it was advertised as a FRs RPG, so I expect to have an immersive experience in a FRs RPG, and I wish for bad-RPG features to be changed”.
You may not care about it, but it still is a bad RPG feature. Not a bad feature intrinsically, just a bad feature when applied to an RPG.
As I said, I’m all for having the option to toggle off the limitations on fast travel for the people who want it, but the CORE mechanic of the game should be the correct one for its genre.

Because it has. Genres exist because they have a history of titles with common base features that defines what should be expected of a game which is labelled as to belongs to that genre.

Well, I respect that. But wanting to play the game as you desire doesn’t imply being unable to see if something is flawed, even if that flaw enhances your personal experience.
It’s still a conceptual flaw (relatively to the game genre) and as such should be fixed.

Yeah, but from this point of view also junk food is healthy because tons of people eat it.
If a lot of people don't find junk food (fast travel) to be unhealthy (un-immersive) doesn’t mean it’s true.


Well, I’m happy we can find common ground on the main body of the argument. I totally agree with you here.

To sum up my point of view, free of any negativity to be perceived in my tone:
I do not advocate for those changes because I want to take away the fun from other people's playthroughs. I advocate for those changes because I find that RPGs should have systems implemented to be coherent with the in-game lore, so as to benefit the immersion factor.
If one chooses to play an RPG, one should be aware that, in this genre, immersion takes precedence over QoL features.
That said, I’m more than happy for people who like QoL more than immersion to have the option to change the settings to best fit their needs.
But this is still an RPG, so I think, as written above, that the core mechanics should favour immersiveness over QoL, and not the opposite.

At the end of the day, we will both be happy and the game will rightfully be called an RPG, at least concerning this aspect 😊

Anyway, I doubt I can add anything more to enrich the debate. I’ll be more than pleased to follow how you people will comment on the matter tho!