Originally Posted by Sharet
It's a stick, it is not meant to be able to stay glued to your back, nor it is practical in any way.
My dear, dear elf ... my question is "how" ... not "is it?". smile
You are answering me "its not" ... i thank you for your opinion, but its not what i asked.

Also, as for the practical part ...
Again ... how? The only reason its inpractical to draw your weapon from sheet on your back, is the sheet. laugh
Theese weapons have no sheets ... in what lays that inpracticality? And please focus on practicality ... not your own estetic feeling about it. smile

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And since im quite sure some smartypants would tell me, instead of answering the question ... i obviously know the answer: "Its a fucking game!"
And that is exactly the point ... is a fucking game full of fucking nonsences ... but for some unknown reason we are willing to ignore eeeeeeeeeeeeeverything else, or simply say "its a magic dude" ( as if that would explain anything laugh ) ... and yet things we simply dont like "horribly ruins our immersion" ...

And my question gentleman and ladies ... is: H-O-W ? smile

Seriously if at least one of you had the balls (or w/e body part womans use to measure their bravery) to admit that there is no actual reason and this was for him/her specificly just covenient excuse to get the game more to his own liking ... i think i would finaly believe at least somebody. laugh

Originally Posted by Niara
Notice how everything you compared this to are intrinsically magical creatures or literal magic?
I believe i would be able to find some examples that are unmagical ...

For example im not quite sure what is magical about Dragons to be honest ... yes, they dont exist in our world ... but if there is any connection to weave, i was not aware of it. O_o

I could question reproduction of Githyanki ... since their bodies seems hardly capable to contain one large meal, not even mention an egg. O_o

And if i would want to se joker, i would ask how is that possible that my Halfling character was just DIRECTLY HIT with an Axe, twice his own size ... and yet he lost only 1hp ... instead of being cut in half, again no magic involved.

And im too lazy to search futher. laugh


Originally Posted by Niara
Most magical fire, because it is magical fire fuelled by the weave for its effect, generally does not remain around after the spell has been cast? In some cases, it can be maintained through concentration, and in some cases the initial spell burst of fire can ignite mundane objects in live, non-magical fire... but the magical fire itself doesn't stick around.
Ehm ...
https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Produce%20Flame#content

10 minues, no concentration, fire stick around, cantrip (therefore nothing even unusual), and while the fire is hold its not even hot (since the hand dont get burned).
This is the one im talking about. laugh


Originally Posted by Niara
Now... comparatively... When the barbarian slings their axe over their shoulder and leaves it floating in mid-air behind them, glued by invisible force and distance to them... that's just silly and destroys immersion. There IS no magic involved here, and no other in-world tangible explanation. If you cast detect magic on this barbarian you will not detect anything - and this can be tested! The barbarian didn't cast a spell, and they could not do so anyway; they have no enchantment upon them, and no enchantment exists upon the weapon to explain this
Its fascinating how much are you focused on the fact that there is no magic involved ... as if that would be the only way.

I repeat, i didnt asked if there is any magic used ... i asked how is fact that this "just happened" anyhow less believable than anything else, that commonly happens in this world. laugh
Just as that hitpoints ... just as that constant ressurections after the fight ... just as healing by having a meal and go to sleep ... just as everything else. laugh

In our world, if you swing an axe against someone and you hit ... the person falls, usualy with heavy wound that incapacitates him, sometimes just dead, we all know that ... nobody ever questioned it.
In their world, if you swing an axe against someone and you hit ... the person count damage, subtract it from some imaginary number, and keep fighting as if nothing happened, no matter where he was hit, until that imaginary number falls to 0, then he falls to the ground gasping his has breath, and after three subsequent failed rolls he die ... nobody ever questioned it.

In our world, if you put an axe on your back ... it falls, we all know that ... nobody ever questioned it.
In their world, if you put and axe on your back ... it stays there ... why are we questioning it?

The answer is obvious and simple my dears, you "dont like it" ... why even pretend that there is something deeper behind it? laugh


Originally Posted by Niara
but it is all I can think of to understand how you came to stand in a position that leads you to even ask a question like that in the first place.
I just want to understand you people. laugh
I know your opinions, even tho i disagree with them ... but i dont get them and that triggers my curiocity.


Originally Posted by Niara
or why people would find it to be important.
This would be my case aswell. laugh


Originally Posted by Niara
they also don't really seem to grasp why repeatedly breaking immersion for the sake of 'doing a funny' doesn't leave general immersion intact the rest of the time - it just doesn't, when that's a regular occurrence.
Or ... just providing an alternative from my own point of view ... they simply dont care.

You see "immersion", aswell as "fun" is incredibly subjective matter ...

While one person would love to drag a vaggon with horses with you through the whole adventure (i wonder how tho) ...
Another person would like to have option to stash whole city into her purse (but honestly ... that would be immersive, i allways get amazed by how so many items can be stashed in those things) ...

Fun fact tho ... if you take those two persons, and switch their games, they would be both discuised ... even tho each for different reason.

For this very reason Larian is simply forced to go middle ground ... sometimes immersion, sometimes fun, and most of the time little bit of both.
It dont seem so hard to me as a concept to grasp. :-/


Originally Posted by Niara
They don't understand why being able to "burrow" into a cage that's hanging twenty feet above you in open air is a problem, or why it breaks immersion, or why you should not be able to do that. That's the problem.
Is it? O_o

I know you dislike this attitude but still:
If its a problem, and its so "immersive breaking", and immersion is "so important" ... why would you do that?


Originally Posted by Niara
we can but hope.
This apply to me aswell. frown


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown