Originally Posted by Sharet
The fact that the GM has the last word doesn't mean that word is right. The world is full of bad Game Masters.
Aswell as bad players ...
And lots and lots other bad persons, and things. laugh

Originally Posted by Sharet
In the end, we will all accept what Larian is going to choose (we have no power to change things if not through mods) but still, we are here to give feedback on what we think should be improved.
Didnt we allready talked about this?

You provide your feedback, i shall add mine ... this is how forum works.

Then mr.planetscapist come and post his picture of some character while demanding that nobody should talk to me ever again, now and prefferably even before ... this is how this forum works, lately. laugh

Originally Posted by Sharet
Answer:
Everything that doesn't look and/or work the way it is supposed to be in the setting.
Yes ... this is perfectly logical and undersandable ...

Except that "is supposed to be" part.
Since your GM is the one who call how thigs "are supposed to be" ... and yet you dismiss that, since he "is not right" or "is a bad GM" ...

So ... since you said: "This is not "my liking", this is how the setting is built."

Im not quire sure where do you take how things "are supposed to be" ...
Bcs unless i understand it incorectly, you dont use your own opinions, nor opinions of your bad GM. O_o

Originally Posted by Sharet
Answer:
Because, due to the quite understandable fact that the human brain tends to notice and focus on things that don't make sense with the laws of nature.
Wich are butchered on every single step, or corner, and yet some things "we are used to" are fine ... and others that "does not please our eye" are concidered horrible crimes against normality. smile

I presume that is the main problem i have with this topic ...
I, when immersing to some setting, aply same approach to everything, if one thing breaks some "law of nature" and i accept it, i never question that "law of nature" ever again in the setting* ... bcs it was allready broken and it would be odd to accept it for one thing, but complain on it for another ... ... usualy it means that im willing to accept a lot, from GM ... not everything, true, but a lot ...
It seems to me that you are either just willing to accept less than me, or you are selective. :-/ There is nothing bad about it, just to point out ... we just dont think the same way ... wich is i presume not a surprise by now. laugh

*There is exception for this rule by the way ...
And its the case when i get the feeling that "law of nature" i allready concidered broken in some past time, seem to be "even more broken" (if you get what i mean, its not easy expression) by some futher event ... for example if my GM would claim that in this world there are Flying rocks, that defile gravity with their very existence, but dont have any own source of power that would provide it (aka magic) ... i would not question flying sword (since there obviously are things that defile gravity and sword is comparable, or smaller items when compared to stone ... like matter, potentialy material, size, weight, etc.) ...
But if we would later find flying mountain (just an example of exaggerated breaking of the same law) ... i would probably have some questions. laugh

Originally Posted by Sharet
I really have no idea how to explain this concept better than this, I'm sorry.
Well, we cant agree on everything ... thank you for trying tho. smile

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Originally Posted by Wormerine
And coming back to the previous point of yours - no, the experience can't be occasionally immersive. When film/game is described as immersive that usually means that it doesn't draw unnecessary attention to its artificiality and makes it world feel authentic.
Did i say occasionaly?
I believe i dont but maybe i misspoken (misswritten?) myself. :-/

Nah, whatever i said (since i really dont want to spend even more time searching here for something that might be simply missinterpreted) ...
I didnt mean that game should be immersive for a while ... then more crazy for a while, while screwing the immersion ... and then start to build immersion again ... just to screw it a moment later again. laugh
That would be PURE madness. laugh

My example (whatever it was) was about constant amount during the whole time.
I dont need this game to become Faerun life simulator ... and quite honestly, i dont believe you want that either ...
I believe we all simply defend our preffered possition of seesaw ... i want it a little more to the right side ... you want it a little more to the left side ... the best way Larian can satisfy us both is give us either both, or none. :P

Some wise man once said:
Democracy only works if none of the involved groups are satisfied. smile
Shame i dont remember who was he. laugh

Last edited by RagnarokCzD; 11/05/22 02:58 PM.

I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown