Roughly 200 unique users on this forum alone spoke unfavorably about the mechanic
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Which it WAS, as the sample was in fact of 201 users. In fact according to the updated numbers it was even an underestimation, since the new total is at 228 according to Flooter''s recount.
When exactly we turned from "spoke unfavorably" to "users in total" ?
You have to pick a side ...
(spoiler: that would equate to pretty much 95% of the people who talked about it at all)
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RESULTS (Out of 181 + 47 = 228 accounts)
- 164 (72%) of them give a feedback that you can't missunderstood : they don't like this system
See? Not pretty much 95% ... exactly 72% ...
Thanfully Flooter did the math for me, as he said, feel free to check it.
Once again, exaggerated.
If ONE user out of 201 speaking favorably about the mechanic (or let's say 3 out of 228 now) and 75% of them being OPENLY AGAINST it doesn't point to the *overwhelming majority of users* not liking it, then I don't know what it is.
Thats quite easy ...
It points out to the fact that "overwhelming majority of people who cared about the topic enough to come to this forum to that topic, to complain about it ... didnt like it".
Not users in general.
Also, clearly you have no fucking clue of how a sample works.
There are even nation-wide polls made with samples of 1000 people at most. But according to you we would need a million votes to know for sure how the majority feels about something.
Funny enough, i bet that in my studies of statistic during University i learned quite well samples works.
Let me tell you in short something:
The main aspect for sample to have any value is that those people choosen for sample have to be "sufficiently different", to include as much potential opinions as possible ...
That is often achieved by picking people randomly.
Wich didnt happened here.
People come on this forum, bcs they had something to say ... wich logicaly exclude every single person that is satisfied with the game as it is.
And they participated in that topic, bcs they had something to say on that topic specificaly ... wich again logicaly exclude every single person who liked the system as it is, but didnt have the interest, or energy to go argue with others.
In other words ... if
at least every single person from this Forum would participate in that topic, then its results would be much more acurate ...
Im still not sure they would be acurate, but it would be much better.
As I said, you made a hobby of being the petulant little devil's advocate of every lost cause on this forum.
Yes, we all know you love to repeat yourself ...
No matter how many times you state, you will still be wrong.
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There's also a survey that was done right after the beginning of the EA asking if players were "satisfied" with the chain system.
50% were satisfied while 50% weren't (+-1000 playerd gave their opinion).
We could argue that people here give more feedback about things they don't really like so the 70% may not be absolutely representative of the whole community... but we could also argue that "being satisfied" doesn't really mean that you like something.
Indeed ...
Mine conclusion from such data would be that survey was not done properly ... and its conclusions are inconclusive.
In the end this survey show that at least 1 player out of 2 is annoyed by this feature
Thats the problem ... it dont. :-/
I dunno how to say it ...
Imagine you come to Apple store to make survey if people like more IOS or Android ...
That is our situation ... maybe not as extreme, but in general ... the survey will be strongly bend to one side, but its informative value is ... questionable at best. :-/
It would have been very cool if other survey were done during the EA. I'm glad Larian choose this path because we have succeed at making them change jump/disengage, backstab, highground, cantrip surfaces.
I hope they'll listen for other (major) changes but if the EA question is raised, in my opinion it's only because Larian is doing a POOR job with this EA. The lack of community manager and the lack of communication is really a problem.
Agreed.
