Originally Posted by Brainer
A WH40k fan and an Owlcat despiser in me are now clashed in an endless struggle. On one hand, them finally letting go of Pathfinder means less bloatedness and potentially a far more balanced and useable system in play, and the very prospect for an RPG set in the Warhammer 40.000 is incredibly appealing, so there are hopes that it will continue the last few years' trend of WH games stopping being hot garbage.

On the other, it's still Owlcat. I wouldn't be surprised if it releases as a broken pile of manure and even a myriad of patches doesn't fully fix it, and that it'd have some poorly designed system stitched on top that has nothing to do with the normal gameplay but is more or less mandatory to engage with in order to get through the game. No, the "turn it off" option doesn't really fix the fact that it exists and took resources and time to make when the rest of the game could have been more polished and better put together.

I guess "cautiously optimistic" is what I am about it. Third time's the charm and all.

I have the same opinion.

I tried Kingmaker and it was a mess. I encountered a ton of bugs, found the characters cartoonish, thought the kingdom building aspect was horrendous, the systems were not at all intuitive (given that I have never played Pathfinder tabletop) and dropped it.

Because of that I was cautious about WotR and after watching some gameplay I was thrilled that I avoided it because I thought it looked horrendous.

RogueTrader looks awesome and I prefer turn-based games, but I will definitely be avoiding a pre-order and waiting to see early reviews before I even think about buying it. Odds are it will release a buggy mess with early act content polished up and showing what they can do - while the later part of the game is an empty pile o' trash... because that is just kind of how OwlCat rolls.