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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Quite honestly i cant even imagine how can anyone play on some smaller disk ... i had 1TB and it barely kept all i want. laugh
So i had to upgrade to 4TB ... and its filling fast aswell. laugh

4TB is a good choice for cost-effective wink

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Originally Posted by Van'tal
I will probably not download this for a bit until some of the dust clears.

https://www.newegg.com/blue-wd20ezbx-2tb/p/N82E16822234469
Buy this. Enough gaming space for years.

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That's a paltry 2TB. Not exactly life changing.
I currently have 4 TB of SSD (summing up three different drives) and 4TB of HDD and I'm still constantly downloading and deleting stuff.

Also, that's a mechanical HD too (and not eve one of the fastest available), which is dangerously close to complete obsolescence with any modern game, but especially a poor fit to play BG3.
If you are one of th4ese guys who love to complain that "cinematic dialogues have long loading times" (when they should be basically instantaneous) or that "the game takes a long time to load", that type of HD is probably the main culprit.

P.S. A slow outdated CPU or a low amount of RAM are probably immediately behind, but still not as impactful as the type of hard drive used.

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m... I can not believe it, I need a 4TB hard disk, and nowadays my hard disk is just 512GB.

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Unfortunately, yes, games are bloating, which either means you need a lot of storage to keep all your games, or a high-bandwidth internet connection to re-download deleted games.

HDD drives are so slow that they are best considered as offline storage ( i.e. copy games you are not likely to play soon to those disks to free up space in SSDs for games you currently play ). Fortunately, SSDs continue to drop in price, and SATA SSDs are generally still good enough for your current games storage; you don't yet need to pay the 100% markup for PCIe SSDs.

When Intel, AMD and NVidia get around to their next batch of hardware releases, later this year, I'll probably build a new PC ( I haven't bothered with a new CPU/motherboard for 10 years without really having problems ) so long as I can find an option that doesn't turn my house into an oven smile

I currently have 4TB Offline HDD storage, and 2.5TB of SATA SSDs for "current" data, although that is almost full. I expect I will stick with SATA SSDs for games and other data storage, simply because they are cost efficient, and easily fast enough for now.

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Compare the storage requirements of this game and its many gigabytes to the essentials of D&D plus campaign-specific information.

Three PDFS (i.e., the PHB, DMG and MM) total less than fifty megabytes in size. A text document with campaign notes probably won't exceed a megabyte or two. Throw in high quality maps and you're still well with one-hundred megabytes all-in-all.

Ultimately, human imagination truly possesses the best data compression smile.

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True, but with enough human imagination, you don't even need the rule books; thats how role-playing started smile

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Originally Posted by Tuco
That's a paltry 2TB. Not exactly life changing.
I currently have 4 TB of SSD (summing up three different drives) and 4TB of HDD and I'm still constantly downloading and deleting stuff.

Also, that's a mechanical HD too (and not eve one of the fastest available), which is dangerously close to complete obsolescence with any modern game, but especially a poor fit to play BG3.
If you are one of th4ese guys who love to complain that "cinematic dialogues have long loading times" (when they should be basically instantaneous) or that "the game takes a long time to load", that type of HD is probably the main culprit.

P.S. A slow outdated CPU or a low amount of RAM are probably immediately behind, but still not as impactful as the type of hard drive used.
I specifically looked for something cheap and outdated that still had terabytes of space to show that you could buy a hard drive that could easily fit this game and more for a small amount of money and you don't have to be a tech genius to do it. Finding that literally took all but 10 minutes of searching and that was only because the site had changed its layout and it took a few extra minutes for me to adjust to it.

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Originally Posted by PixieStix2
I specifically looked for something cheap and outdated that still had terabytes of space to show that you could buy a hard drive that could easily fit this game and more for a small amount of money and you don't have to be a tech genius to do it. Finding that literally took all but 10 minutes of searching and that was only because the site had changed its layout and it took a few extra minutes for me to adjust to it.
Well, ok?

It doesn't really change my points.
- No one will be "set for years" with 2 TB as you claimed, unless they play a game every solar eclipse.
- a mechanical hard disk is factually inadequate for a good experience with BG3.

I wasn't really trying to debate your expertise nor the amount of research you did.


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Originally Posted by PixieStix2
I specifically looked for something cheap and outdated that still had terabytes of space to show that you could buy a hard drive that could easily fit this game and more for a small amount of money and you don't have to be a tech genius to do it. Finding that literally took all but 10 minutes of searching and that was only because the site had changed its layout and it took a few extra minutes for me to adjust to it.
Well, ok?

It doesn't really change my points.
- No one will be "set for years" with 2 TB as you claimed, unless they play a game every solar eclipse.
- a mechanical hard disk is factually inadequate for a good experience with BG3.

I wasn't really trying to debate your expertise nor the amount of research you did.

maybe we can expect that BG3 + mods will bigger than 2TGB laugh

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Most files related to modding are typically class/race/customization related by popularity, and involves basically editing text files. 90% of unoptimized mods are basically metadata rather than the mod itself, so filling up 2TB would be a massive feat :P

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... ... ...Please insert disc 1,007 before continuing... ... ...

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Originally Posted by Sozz
... ... ...Please insert disc 1,007 before continuing... ... ...

I miss those multi-disc days.

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... ... ...Please insert disc 1,007 before continuing... ... ...

I miss those multi-disc days.

I was there and I really, REALLY don't.


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Originally Posted by The Composer
Most files related to modding are typically class/race/customization related by popularity, and involves basically editing text files. 90% of unoptimized mods are basically metadata rather than the mod itself, so filling up 2TB would be a massive feat :P

Just wait until some of the serious content creators decide it would be great to create the 3D assets for their own favourite city or region of faerun smile When I mapped out Waterdeep in the NWN2 toolset, the basic areas came to 300GB+, even without adding much exterior content, building interiors, nor any of Skullport or Undermountain...

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Originally Posted by Tuco
I was there and I really, REALLY don't.
Agreed ...

Sometimes installing from 5CDs seems like horrible task in retrospective ...
I will gladly pretend that floppy disks never happened. :3


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown
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I kinda feel that there was a certain charm to changing disks when game asked you to. Kinda like a milestone lol.
But charm or not - yeah, I would rather not go back there. Especially remembering stuff like Starforce. I had a decent collection of CDs and DVD that I got rid of recently - there was just no point because most of these were not working well anyway and they took a lot of space.

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Originally Posted by Tuco
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... ... ...Please insert disc 1,007 before continuing... ... ...

I miss those multi-disc days.

I was there and I really, REALLY don't.

There was a subtle sense of wonder in that games were so very large/expansive that you had to use multiple compact discs (or even digital-video discs) to explore those faraway worlds. Also, around that time, the game manuals were quite impressive.

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You know I think I read the manual to StarCraft more than I actually played the game.

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Ugh I hated multidisk installs. Especially when you/your brother is too lazy to put away one you just used, the dog scares the cat, who jumps onto the desk and scrapes disk 4 of Baldur's Gate. Impossible to use now.... Ruined a 6 disk set.

Then there's the crazy idea of putting the disk back in the case it belongs to. My brothers never did this, so opening BG has a Sim City disk. Sim City has a Sesame Street disk, Sesame Street has an AOL install.... I spent more time putting disks back in their dang sleeves/cases than actually installing games.

Do not miss the days of sharing disks and computers. Not one bit.

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