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I'm sorry, but overall the character creation for this game is underwhelming at best and frankly outdated. I know much of it will probably be fixed by modders, but for now I think you need to add sliders and a ton more customization options. You don't even have lipstick for God sakes! Even in Egyptian times they had makeup options outside of eyeshadow. Also more hairstyles wouldn't kill you. Though I do love that you can make a female dwarf with a beard, it's not enough.

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Our bodies are also completely 100% immutable - no height, no build, nothing.

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We already talked about this stuff several times, but to put it succintly:

- I doubt "sliders" will EVER be a thing, because these 3D models don't seem to be built with deformability in mind.
- What we can hope for, more realistically, is a getting a bunch of interchangeable pre-sets , on the other hand. You know, three different standardized heights for each model (plain scaling should do the trick), three different builds/body types, that kind of shit...
- More options for everything (faces, hair, bodies, voices) would help a lot to increase the variety and range, but that's a bit obvious and kinda redundant to state openly.

Personally I find the current system serviceable and adequate, but far from ideal.
I feel like the ultimate test of how good your character creator is should be something like imagining an archetype as your goal (i.e. imitating a popular character from fiction) and being able to consistently reproduce it with the tools offered.
Admittedly, not something that many games achieved. Dragon's Dogma comes to mind as a rare exception.


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Originally Posted by Tuco
We already talked about this stuff several times, but to put it succintly:

- I doubt "sliders" will EVER be a thing, because these 3D models don't seem to be built with deformability in mind.
- What we can hope for, more realistically, is a getting a bunch of interchangeable pre-sets , on the other hand. You know, three different standardized heights for each model (plain scaling should do the trick), three different builds/body types, that kind of shit...
- More options for everything (faces, hair, bodies, voices) would help a lot to increase the variety and range, but that's a bit obvious and kinda redundant to state openly.

Personally I find the current system serviceable and adequate, but far from ideal.
I feel like the ultimate test of how good your character creator is should be something like imagining an archetype as your goal (i.e. imitating a popular character from fiction) and being able to consistently reproduce it with the tools offered.
Admittedly, not something that many games achieved. Dragon's Dogma comes to mind as a rare exception.

+1

Again, it's not about "This character creator is the have all be all character creator of all time.". It's about comparing it to other cRPGs.

KOTOR. Just pick from a preset group of characters. No body types, changing face features at all. No other races. Just human.

Neverwinter Nights. Pick a portrait and try to make your boxy pixel avatar look at least somewhat like it.

Solasta. Lots of options, but maybe 2 or 3 good faces and hairstyles.

You know, the reason so many BG3 avatars look alike is that some faces are more popular than others. I don't see very many avatars for BG3 with the not so "pretty" faces.

Again. Options would make all the difference.

Here's the test I use:. How many unique looking characters can I create. Look at my blog. https://baldursgate3theafflicted.blogspot.com/2021/08/home.html?m=1

Every character I created is unique from one another. Sure. Other players will have created similar characters, of course. Thousands of people are creating characters. But I can personally create dozens of unique characters. That's pretty good in my book.

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Originally Posted by PixieStix2
I'm sorry, but overall the character creation for this game is underwhelming at best and frankly outdated. ...
I don't disagree and More faces or combinations would be nice. I think they could add a size control; maybe 3-4 choices that are just a strait 110%-80% or something like that. I'd imagine it'll actually come in at some point probably around at some time since a scaling system is used for clothing anyway. Though I hope they do more than just a strait resize so doesn't just look shrunk but rather it 'fits' the smaller size.

I would like to see, but this would require replicating a lot of clothing, a fat body choice. Not because I'm part of that, let's call it 'very questionable science' believing part of the "Body Positivity(TM)" movement, but because it would be nice to make a Friar Tuck kind of character once and a while smile
I'm not sure it would be financially feasible for a company but if the Mod system could handle it maybe a modder will do it.

Which brings us to things like hairstyles, make up, etc. They built a fairly easy Mod system and like many RPGs Modder's are the people to look to for those kinds of things, in fact I think there are already mods like that available. I think at this point the RPGs it's kinda part of the development process to give a a dozen or so base options and let Modder's do the rest. It makes sense financially plus it gives a small but committed fanbase a way to not only feel like a part of the team, it also adds longevity to the product.

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Originally Posted by PixieStix2
Though I do love that you can make a female dwarf with a beard, it's not enough.
I would just like to note that while our curent "beard" options are fine for everyone, including Dwarf FEMALE ... they are certainly NOT sufficient for Dwarf Male!

Also i feel kinda sad that Wildheart Barbarian is the only person in this world who can wear piercings, or earings. :-/

And i would also like to use this topic to once again repeat my wish to set ears separately from face (just as we do with horns) ... some Tieflings faces are really nice ... but those ears that are attached to them should be concidered warcrime. :-/

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I've always felt that Larian is holding back a bit on the character creator for the full relase of the game.

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Originally Posted by Peranor
I've always felt that Larian is holding back a bit on the character creator for the full relase of the game.
I suspect you're right. If they gave us additional hairstyles etc. now, folks would be posting that we need even more by this time next week. laugh Unexpected cosmetic options would certainly add fun to full release.

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Originally Posted by Peranor
I've always felt that Larian is holding back a bit on the character creator for the full relase of the game.
I mean, it's basically a given that they 'll add SOME stuff at release.
The doubt is more about the extent they'll go to expand the system.

It could be "3 more faces (in TOTAL), 5 haircuts and 6 tattoos"
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It could be a considerable amount of additions plus entire new features like the selection of different bodies.

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I really wish Larians will add this popular and my favourite beard to char creator. Hope they read this message.
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I hope they add some REAL Dwarven beards ...
I mean beard that only reach your breast is shamefully short for a Dwarf. :P laugh


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
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I just want female Drow who look like females instead of looking like the male model with pushed out polys for breasts. Reminds me of Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, where the female is just the male model with the beard removed.

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The male human and male elf (high elf and wood elf) faces look weird, in my opinion. It makes me not want to play them.

This isn't a complaint saying I need a particular style of elf with a particular type of eyes and ears and whatnot. I'm just saying the options that exist look weird. Kinda ugly, to put it simply.

Sometimes ugly is okay if there's enough "character" in the face to go with it, but some of these choices just look odd.


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