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Damn, you are really invested in that Hermit Background.

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Cutting Words: Free action, on your turn, target one creature within 60 feet and expend a bardic inspiration die to cause its next attack or saving throw to be reduced by a roll of your bardic die.

Simple, lazy, unsatisfying and the minimum effort way of actualising the ability into the current system. Just watch.
I’ll take those odds.
[...]
Here’s my guess.
Cutting Words: at the cost of a reaction, if using this ability would matter, an enemy’s attack or saving throw is reduced by a roll of your bardic die.
[...]
Just watch. ^^
I watched, I saw, I ate my words...


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Originally Posted by Flooter
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Originally Posted by Niara
Cutting Words: Free action, on your turn, target one creature within 60 feet and expend a bardic inspiration die to cause its next attack or saving throw to be reduced by a roll of your bardic die.

Simple, lazy, unsatisfying and the minimum effort way of actualising the ability into the current system. Just watch.
I’ll take those odds.
[...]
Here’s my guess.
Cutting Words: at the cost of a reaction, if using this ability would matter, an enemy’s attack or saving throw is reduced by a roll of your bardic die.
[...]
Just watch. ^^
I watched, I saw, I ate my words...

We told you.

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Originally Posted by Flooter
I watched, I saw, I ate my words...

I am sorry, truly, to have been more or less correct. Though you were right in that it does cost your reaction, which just refreshed at the start of your turn, which means yo have no reaction for the next round at all.

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Yes, this is very disappointing. Never been a fan of Barbarians nor Wildshape, so I didn't get a lot of use out of the last two patches. I tested the mechanical changes, liked the Land Druid some. I can wait for the other classes, races, and subclasses; but to release to Bard without FIXING THE BROKEN REACTION SYSTEM, is unacceptable to me. I've been an optimist since early access began, giving Larian the benefit of the doubt, no longer.

It is becoming painfully clear to me, that Larian has no intention of giving us proper reactions. Which unbalances the classes and subclasses a lot. I've had a lot of fun with BG3 early access, it was well worth the 65 dollars. But if this is the system they will be releasing, I won't be playing again.

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Originally Posted by Merlex
It is becoming painfully clear to me, that Larian has no intention of giving us proper reactions. Which unbalances the classes and subclasses a lot. I've had a lot of fun with BG3 early access, it was well worth the 65 dollars. But if this is the system they will be releasing, I won't be playing again.
It's baffling to me that people play for a visualized D&D handbook rather than the game itself.

Help me understand, the game is really great, it has very nice visuals, so far a compelling story and characters, the mechanics are something you either like or get used to. Why is everyone loosing their minds over a handbook mechanic? Why is that a deal breaker that you are willing to "[never] play again"? Why is a single thing worth loosing out a story for?

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Originally Posted by Merlex
It is becoming painfully clear to me, that Larian has no intention of giving us proper reactions. Which unbalances the classes and subclasses a lot. I've had a lot of fun with BG3 early access, it was well worth the 65 dollars. But if this is the system they will be releasing, I won't be playing again.
It's baffling to me that people play for a visualized D&D handbook rather than the game itself.

Help me understand, the game is really great, it has very nice visuals, so far a compelling story and characters, the mechanics are something you either like or get used to. Why is everyone loosing their minds over a handbook mechanic? Why is that a deal breaker that you are willing to "[never] play again"? Why is a single thing worth loosing out a story for?


"Nice Visuals" - yes the game looks really pretty - if you stand still and are zoomed out. As soon as you get into any dialogue you have weird camera angles and bloody-faced-serial-killer characters staring at you with dead eyes.

"Compelling Story" - a story whos start doesn't make any sense whatsoever and which was copy-pasted from their previous game.

"Compelling Characters" - they compel me to murder them just so that they STFU.


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Originally Posted by Doomdrake
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Originally Posted by Merlex
It is becoming painfully clear to me, that Larian has no intention of giving us proper reactions. Which unbalances the classes and subclasses a lot. I've had a lot of fun with BG3 early access, it was well worth the 65 dollars. But if this is the system they will be releasing, I won't be playing again.
It's baffling to me that people play for a visualized D&D handbook rather than the game itself.

Help me understand, the game is really great, it has very nice visuals, so far a compelling story and characters, the mechanics are something you either like or get used to. Why is everyone loosing their minds over a handbook mechanic? Why is that a deal breaker that you are willing to "[never] play again"? Why is a single thing worth loosing out a story for?


"Nice Visuals" - yes the game looks really pretty - if you stand still and are zoomed out. As soon as you get into any dialogue you have weird camera angles and bloody-faced-serial-killer characters staring at you with dead eyes.

"Compelling Story" - a story whos start doesn't make any sense whatsoever and which was copy-pasted from their previous game.

"Compelling Characters" - they compel me to murder them just so that they STFU.
Sounds like you should be playing the tabletop then and not worry about this title if literally nothing here is to your tastes?

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Originally Posted by Doomdrake
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Originally Posted by Merlex
It is becoming painfully clear to me, that Larian has no intention of giving us proper reactions. Which unbalances the classes and subclasses a lot. I've had a lot of fun with BG3 early access, it was well worth the 65 dollars. But if this is the system they will be releasing, I won't be playing again.
It's baffling to me that people play for a visualized D&D handbook rather than the game itself.

Help me understand, the game is really great, it has very nice visuals, so far a compelling story and characters, the mechanics are something you either like or get used to. Why is everyone loosing their minds over a handbook mechanic? Why is that a deal breaker that you are willing to "[never] play again"? Why is a single thing worth loosing out a story for?


"Nice Visuals" - yes the game looks really pretty - if you stand still and are zoomed out. As soon as you get into any dialogue you have weird camera angles and bloody-faced-serial-killer characters staring at you with dead eyes.

"Compelling Story" - a story whos start doesn't make any sense whatsoever and which was copy-pasted from their previous game.

"Compelling Characters" - they compel me to murder them just so that they STFU.
You've said it well. Yet to find a character in this game that I like. And Larian's writing is pretty lame, and targeted purely at a hipster audience.

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Damn, you are really invested in that Hermit Background.

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Hol' up. They took out the hermit background? Why?

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Originally Posted by Demoulius
They took out the hermit background? Why?
They did that in patch 7 ... or maybe even 6, not sure really ...
Aswell as some others, those backgrounds that didnt provide "enough" opourtunities to get Inspiration were removed ... hopefully only temporary.


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Originally Posted by Niara
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I watched, I saw, I ate my words...

I am sorry, truly, to have been more or less correct. Though you were right in that it does cost your reaction, which just refreshed at the start of your turn, which means yo have no reaction for the next round at all.
Thank you for consoling me, but being a little bit right about the worst case scenario is of little solace. I feel like I wished on a monkey’s paw to make one accurate prediction about BG3…

Also, no one foresaw the weird toggles for bardic inspiration. If this is Larian’s idea of an interesting decision, then color me baffled.


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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Demoulius
They took out the hermit background? Why?
They did that in patch 7 ... or maybe even 6, not sure really ...
Aswell as some others, those backgrounds that didnt provide "enough" opourtunities to get Inspiration were removed ... hopefully only temporary.
Well thats a bummer. Why not just make up more opporunities to get the inspiration rather then take them out completly?

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Originally Posted by Vitani
Sounds like you should be playing the tabletop then and not worry about this title if literally nothing here is to your tastes?

Many of us are here because we purchased early access to the game. If the early access were free of charge then you might have a point, but it was not.

I have determined that I will not participate in future Early Access games by Larian, so there is that at least.

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Originally Posted by Demoulius
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Originally Posted by Demoulius
They took out the hermit background? Why?
They did that in patch 7 ... or maybe even 6, not sure really ...
Aswell as some others, those backgrounds that didnt provide "enough" opourtunities to get Inspiration were removed ... hopefully only temporary.
Well thats a bummer. Why not just make up more opporunities to get the inspiration rather then take them out completly?
Guess which one was easier...

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Originally Posted by Demoulius
Why not just make up more opporunities to get the inspiration rather then take them out completly?
Give me 20 situations when person of that background should be inspired ...
Maybe someone from larian will notice and you get it back next patch. :P


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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Demoulius
Why not just make up more opporunities to get the inspiration rather then take them out completly?
Give me 20 situations when person of that background should be inspired ...
Maybe someone from larian will notice and you get it back next patch. :P
20 fights won solo?

It would make sense for the hermit to be linked to solo play, like the Lone Wolf trait in DOS:2


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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Demoulius
Why not just make up more opporunities to get the inspiration rather then take them out completly?
Give me 20 situations when person of that background should be inspired ...
Maybe someone from larian will notice and you get it back next patch. :P
Talking about your past. Living alone (or with family) in nature or maybe brewing potions with herbs you gathered yourself. Stuff like that. Should be plenty of times when it could show up.

Inspiration in the tabletop can also be rewarded by the dm (if he/she uses it) when people act according to their bonds/ideals/etc. Essentially if the player roleplays his character well.

Something doesent have to be specificly tied to your background but talking about your youth or aquitances could (or should) give inspiration. They can write points where inspiration could show up. I have faith in them smile

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