Hello,

Just another thread to say once again how bored I am of being pushed so often in the game. I like the idea of shoving and verticality, I have absolutely no problem with that.

But a character being shoved into a pit die instantly and this may easily mean "game over". And I really don't like instant game over in games.
Some could argue that I have made some mistakes (standing next to a hole), but in many situations you just don't have any choices.
The consequence for a mistake is too punitive and as I said, sometimes there's just no mistake but a map design.

You're a cruel DM !

These instant game over may happen so often because :
- shove is a BA
- shove distance is huge
- many ennemies "push" you after a jump
- many ennemies have arrows that push you

I played the game live for something like 8 to 9 hours. Here's what I remember :

- Ennemies still shoving their allies to wake them up
- Ennemies trying to shove just because they don't know what to do with their bonus action (even if it doesn't make sense)
- Lae-zel got shoved against Dror Razglin and instant die
- Lae-zel was "shoved" by the bullette and instant die
- Lae'zel was "shoved" by the minotaurs and instant die
- Lae'zel was pushed by an arrow on the boat to grymforge and instant die

I like that we know can resurect our fallen character through their "soul". But it is still extremely frustrating to die like this.


Suggestion :
- Shove become an action, except eventually for rogues and their cunning action. I guess it could solve most issues because ennemies would not use it so often.
- Eventually reduce the distance, but TBH as I said I think it should be enough to turn shove into a full action.
- Remove the pushing arrows. It make no sense and it's just boring when you're the target.
- Remove abilities for ennemies that allow to push you. Or at least, don't put those ennemies near holes... (minotaurs, bulette,...)

Thanks for reading !

Last edited by Maximuuus; 11/07/22 10:38 AM.

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