Putting this in spoilers because I do not wish this thread derailed from a request to get some clarification on certain discussions and features to dissection of my comment.
This is all well and good for you. But what about those of us, like me, who are passionate fans of the original BG games and who have been waiting twenty years for that third game in the series, who are very excited at the prospect of finally having that third BG game, BUT who did NOT consider the D:OS games to be good games at all? It's not like we can just wait a few more years and expect someone else to give us that new BG game. This is it. There is no other possibility of a new BG game. So, as someone who did NOT see D:OS2 as a good game, but who as a huge fan of the original BG games very much wants to get a really good BG3 game, what exactly should I be doing here?
The question is very broad as you didn't mention your true thoughts on the game itself, so all I can say is Baldur's Gate 3 is not the true spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate I & II and it never will be, especially 20 years later with a different developer. It plays nor feels nothing like the previous games and anyone looking for even remotely the same experience won't get it here. Only the old games can provide the experience the fans of those games are looking for.
Personally I look at Baldur's Gate 3 on its own and provide my feedback directly based on what I find fitting or not fitting within the game itself, but never by comparing Baldur's Gate 3 to X or Y game because that would serve no purpose nor credibility. At the end of the day the reality of things is that no matter what, there will always be those who like and dislike the game. For every person that dislikes Baldur's Gate 3 there will be tens of thousands who love it.
Past great accomplishments or failures aside, you are being somewhat dismissive of a lot of negative feedback they got over time as if it was just a matter of being a D&D and/or a "classic BG" zealot.
How about acknowledging that people are not just saying "X is bad" but going to great lengths to point EXACTLY what's bad with what they are critizing.
Imagine how many of the often abominable choices that were present in the first EA build (Healing food, jump as a convenient disengage and walking around a character to get advantage come to mind) would have made into release (making the game significantly worse) if hordes of EA testers didn't get very vocal against their existence.
Respectfully it would be far more constructive if you simply used all that energy to support the OP in his request to gain some clarification, than latch onto my comment and dissect DOS2. Twice now.
I don't use DOS2 as ultimate evidence that they can do no wrong, hell the entire reason why I joined these forums is because they did something that I and plenty of others disagree with. I merely mention DOS2 as an example that they know how to make really great and enjoyable games which hundreds of thousands of people really love and enjoy, even those who previously didn't like turn-based games. This is a FACT. It's an actual statistically backed up fact which can be easily proven by checking out Steam reviews.
I understand you are very passionate about the things you dislike, but I do not understand why you keep feeling the need to rationalize your dislike towards certain features so extensively to me trying to prove me wrong and presenting your own gaming taste as facts. By all means dislike it all you want, it's your opinion and I'm sure other people agree with you. Personally I disagree with everything you said is wrong about it because I look at games artistically as a whole, not as systems and sub-systems. What you see as bad design, I see as something to conquer and conquered them I have. The only thing I disliked about DOS2 was inventory management which actually felt hindering due to the lack of the most basic PC controls, which BG3 also suffers from. Was it a bit of a nuisance? Yes, because I love looting everything. Did it make the game any less enjoyable? Hell no. I can't be bothered by it because I'm having such a good time. DOS2 was tremendously fun and enjoyable despite some minor shortcomings. So it's fine that you disagree and feel free to, but there's no need in directly trying to rationalize and convincing me that it's bad. It's bad to you, it's not bad to me. I love it and still play it as that's how it was intended.
Same with the Chain system in another thread, in which I expressed my thoughts in as neutral way as I possibly could inside of a completely derailed thread originally about Patch 8 issues and left it at that. I noticed you're very passionate about disliking it and often keep mentioning it, which is why I never bothered saying anything further as it would serve no purpose and further derail that thread. I am not bothered by the Chain system as some are, in fact I even like it due to reasons which I clearly mentioned there. Some people dislike it and prefer precise movement with formations similar to other games... which is completely alright. I personally dislike formation movement, as I think it looks stupid and unnatural. A group of 4 moving as if they're a Roman Cohort. But I don't go extensively rationalizing my dislike directly to others and trying to prove them wrong. I said my opinion on it as neutrally as I can and that's it. What more is there to say.
And no I am not dismissive of "
constructive negative feedback" nor have implied that anywhere, as I am very active on these forums and participating in dozens of threads at once. There are plenty I agree with and plenty I disagree with, but I express my disagreement in a respectful and polite way, as all feedback should be. The point of my comment is that I am not a fan how some of the feedback is
presented on the forums, which is either demeaning or passive-aggressive towards developers or other members of the community and ends up creating a bad vibe. This reply for example, serves no purpose as it is completely off-topic and a direct jab at me for something I said, with a completely missed point of what I meant.
That was the whole point of my comment. Not to dismiss feedback, but to provide reasoning as to why the lack of communication might be there due to the vibe that surrounds this forum. Sure, I would love to hear Larian's thoughts and opinions on most of the suggested features and changes... but... I also understand why they wouldn't. They asked for negative feedback, not feedback that is negatively demeaning. Would you enthusiastically respond to feedback when it is being implied you're an incompetent monkey that doesn't know what they're doing? I certainly wouldn't and unfortunately I have years of experience dealing with such attitude for something I provided to communities for free. It's hard to deal with, especially when you have 3 different communities with vastly different wishes where X person wants true DnD, Y person wants Baldur's Gate and Z person wants whatever.
In any case, that is all I have to say on the matter. If I wish to continue discussing these things, I'll join one of the threads discussing it and not as personal back and forths that are off-topic.
